Wheels and Tires Discussion about wheels and tires for the S2000.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

4.5 year old tires destroyed

Thread Tools
 
Old 11-08-2021, 01:51 PM
  #1  

Thread Starter
 
Alpine Jay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default 4.5 year old tires destroyed

This was not on our S2000, but on our 2017 Civic Type R. Original Contis, DOT dated 13th week of 2017, 6,000 miles on the car and tires, in So Cal. Always garaged. This last weekend took it to the autox and after a few runs, discovered this. I assume if we try to get Honda or Continental to do anything about it, we'll get all sorts of push back that at 4.5 years old they are "close" to the suggested 5 or 6 year mark for checking tires - though well short of the 10 year replace line. And I'm sure they will say it is really a "passenger car" and autox is outside of its design and certainly outside its warranty. But does anyone have any suggestions or experience with trying to push Honda or Continental on this?

I still shudder to think about what could have happened if we didn't catch this and the next run the tires blew out mid corner.


Old 11-08-2021, 04:46 PM
  #2  
Site Moderator

 
Manga_Spawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Seattle WA
Posts: 13,601
Received 345 Likes on 300 Posts
Default

Yeah I don’t see any way they are going to cover a wear item 4.5 years into their use especially if you say it was from auto x. I’d say you got pretty decent use out of those and if they weren’t getting close to needing to be replaced the auto x pushed them to that point faster than street driving did. Might be smart to get a set of auto x wheels and tires and have tires for street duty. Otherwise you’ll just have to be ok replacing tires more frequently if your going to use the same tires for street and auto x.
Old 11-09-2021, 08:28 AM
  #3  
kos

 
kos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 391
Received 87 Likes on 71 Posts
Default

Why would the OE cover that for you? That's on you. Plenty of times I have seen the OEM tires do that on FK8s when driven hard at AX or on Track.
The following 2 users liked this post by kos:
shrykhar (11-10-2021), zpeed (11-11-2021)
Old 11-09-2021, 08:49 AM
  #4  

 
starchland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,265
Received 90 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

Tire pressure? Looks like excessive tire wall roll over? maybe dial in more camber?
The following 2 users liked this post by starchland:
DanielB (11-10-2021), noodels (11-09-2021)
Old 11-09-2021, 09:30 AM
  #5  

 
ncrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 311
Received 49 Likes on 42 Posts
Default

welcome to MacPherson strut and high power and heavy fwd
Old 11-10-2021, 05:18 AM
  #6  

 
DanielB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 556
Received 75 Likes on 45 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by starchland
Tire pressure? Looks like excessive tire wall roll over? maybe dial in more camber?
This.
I suspect that even a new set of the same tires would have had the same issue. I've seen this happen before with nearly-new non-track tires that were over-driven on a track. By over-driven, I mean not being sensitive to the feedback from the tires that they are starting to slide and reducing throttle and or steering input. Raising tire pressures will help, but the stock suspension settings will not be kind for a high HP front wheel drive car.
Old 11-10-2021, 06:22 AM
  #7  
Registered User

 
engifineer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 5,691
Received 1,213 Likes on 938 Posts
Default

That is very typical for an all season that has been autocrossed. I believe these were the SportContacts though, which are summer tires, but not as aggressive as most of the pointy end autox tires. I assume this is just typical street tire on a nose heavy FWD without a bunch of camber kinda wear. Time for some yokes, 660's or something similar if you want to autocross it much. Even some RT615k+ or RS4's would last well for that. They would not be super competitive but likely will not chunk out like that.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
yamaha6611
Wheels and Tires
8
03-11-2018 07:47 PM
rwheelz
Wheels and Tires
4
06-11-2010 03:07 PM
payneinthe
S2000 Racing and Competition
2
12-25-2003 04:50 PM
jguerdat
New York - Upstate New York S2000 Owners
26
10-16-2003 05:32 AM



Quick Reply: 4.5 year old tires destroyed



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:58 AM.