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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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I have 16K miles on my front SO2's that came on the car. There seems to be tread left except for the inner ~2 inches of the tire. Is this typical or a camber problem?
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Normal. Most people's second set of rear tires wear out at about the same time.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Define camber problem. It's a problem if you want the tires to wear evenly if you don't plan on driving corners aggressively. It's the price of admission for a performance alignment that is daily driven.

Note that the stock front wheel camber is not that aggressive, -0.3 degrees, so I'm guessing that the car was lowered without an alignment (and was never really driven hard) or has a misalignment.

Also note that if the inner tread is gone, the tires still need to be replaced. A few people make a mistake and don't replace the tires and then wonder why they hydroplaned into a curb.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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i know all of this...I'm just wondering if when the time comes to replace front tires do most people notice that the insides are worn significantly greater than the rest of the tire if their S is not lowered and has a normal alignment???

nevermind if I still don't make sense. I'm getting new tires regardless and they'll be SO2's because I just got new rear SO2's.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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My S2k has good alignment and stock suspension. I pulled my wheels off this weekend and noticed that the inside of the stock front tires(S02's) were worn at a greater rate then the rest of the tire. I check my tire pressure often, this must be a normal thing.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by F20_C,Aug 16 2005, 06:08 PM
My S2k has good alignment and stock suspension. I pulled my wheels off this weekend and noticed that the inside of the stock front tires(S02's) were worn at a greater rate then the rest of the tire. I check my tire pressure often, this must be a normal thing.
thank you..i'll count on being a part of owning the car
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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The only way known to correct this problem is a few autocross or track sessions on each set of tires.

The cornering pressures generated flatten the tire out and give more even tire wear. So go and enjoy!!
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by WVtwisties,Aug 16 2005, 06:19 PM
and has a normal alignment???
"Normal" alignment on this car induces inside tire tread wear if the car is used for daily driving. Only if you track the car regularly will you see "normal", even wear because the "normal" alignment is specified for "normal" track duty.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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maybe that should be part of the trend for making the car more streetable in the next model. Even the most enthusiastic track goers still probably drive their car more on the road than on the track. There is a very small percentage of owners that would want the car to be solely set up for the track. They would all have roll cages, hard tops, race seats, harnesses, extinguishers, fuel cells, and more.

It makes tons more sense to approach the alignment the opposite way where hard core track guys would adjust their alignment to make it more track friendly than the masses adjusting their alignment for regular road use.

Just my opinion. I know more aggressive negative camber offers better handling but I'm viewing this for tire wear purposes only. It hurts to have to replace expensive tires with many miles left on the majority of the tire!
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by WVtwisties,Aug 17 2005, 08:55 AM
maybe that should be part of the trend for making the car more streetable in the next model. Even the most enthusiastic track goers still probably drive their car more on the road than on the track. There is a very small percentage of owners that would want the car to be solely set up for the track. They would all have roll cages, hard tops, race seats, harnesses, extinguishers, fuel cells, and more.

It makes tons more sense to approach the alignment the opposite way where hard core track guys would adjust their alignment to make it more track friendly than the masses adjusting their alignment for regular road use.

Just my opinion. I know more aggressive negative camber offers better handling but I'm viewing this for tire wear purposes only. It hurts to have to replace expensive tires with many miles left on the majority of the tire!
That wasn't the point Honda had in mind. They purposely built this car with the specs they did so they could advertise (via car mag road tests) that this car can generate "X" number of g's on a skid pad and that it can do a certain road course in "X" number of seconds quicker than other cars in a similar class or higher. Honda sells Accords, Civics, Passports, CRVs with better tire wear. They specifically marketed this car for its TRACK abilities and to be able to boast about its TRACK numbers.
I can just see it now: Honda puts out an S2000 that will have good, even tire wear. All of it's suspension settings will now be different and the tires that it comes from will last a gazillion miles. Unfortunately, the car will no longer be able to compete with other cars like it used to. BUT, the owner can alter the alignment settings and buy different tires if handling is of importance.
That little HANDLING car can NO LONGER handle. It will no longer turn on a dime nor will it be the darling of Auto crossers or road courses.
YUP, I can see the S2000 headed for an earlier than usual grave.
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