Recent questions on tire pressures encouraged me to write.

There is no such thing as the "right" tire pressure.

There is a great deal of misunderstanding and misinformation promulgated on this issue of the

 

Great post!

I would add to this - buy the best tires you can afford for your car. Tires are the cheapest insurance you can get. If having good tires saves you from an accident because of better handling or stopping ability you have recouped your investment many times over.

This applies to all vehicles, not just the S.

 

The problem is that when a total stranger posts such a question on a public international car forum, we're not going to ask all of these questions first before giving an answer. Without information like what you've posted up, all we can do is to advise them to go with what's stamped on the car doorjamb. That should be the "starting point". Variations from this can only be determined by how the respective owner plans to use the vehicle.
It would be great if we all had crystal balls to know each individual case's circumstances. Oh wait, here ya go ...................................
http://predictions.astrology.com/cb/

Failing this, it's the best we can do. We can only play the "law of averages". And for the entire history of the S2000, what is stamped on the doorjamb has worked well for the vast majority of owners. The smart ones will know to adjust this according to how they drive and in what conditions they drive. I'm not about to second guess a total stranger when he comes on here and asks, "What's the pressure that should be used in our tires?" and provides absolutely no other information.

 

[QUOTE=s2000red07,Oct 15 2005, 04:55 AM] I believe it is fair to say that the tire pressure shown on the manufacturer

 

[QUOTE=xviper,Oct 15 2005, 08:15 AM]The problem is that when a total stranger posts such a question on a public international car forum, we're not going to ask all of these questions first before giving an answer.

 

Insolence? If that's what you get out of this, that's YOUR problem. I'm just telling it the way it is and although some jocularity was intended, no "insolence" was. That was your own DUMBASS interpretation. "Insolence" would be an indication that you think others should look up to you because you may think you're wiser or have more authority or that you are older. Well, I'm an "older" guy, too, and you simply don't command my respect in any way, shape or form, not after your stupid little misinterpretation. You may demand respect in your little circle of older friends, but to me, you're a nobody.

FIY ................ "5 starts" just means I've been around for a long time.
"Community Organizer" just means I plan meets and drives in my local area. I DON'T answer to YOU nor do I have any obligation to treat you like the Cinderella you seem to be.

"A real credit"? My history here stands for itself and has already been judged. Being judged by a 22 day newbie wonderfreak the likes of you means Jack Schitt to me.

As far as responding any further to you. F V C K OFF!

 

sooo since I haven't seen a single PSI on this thread that looks to have potential I guess I'll be the newbie that asks the questions

What (cold) pressures are recommended for stock 17" AP2 wheels with RE050's on them? Warm climate (san diego), suspension to be lowered ~1.7" (neuspeeds) but stock otherwise. at about UK alignment specs if you care.

Curious about recommended pressures for:

1)Rain - safety.

2)daily highway driving in dry warm climate - prefer BEST tirewear pressure to make tires last longer (15mi trip @ ~80)

3)aggressive street driving (onramps / twisties) for maximum grip for 15min - 2hr time periods. i presume slightly (2psi?) lower for the longer periods of aggressive driving as the tires will heat up a good deal? I prefer neutral handling or even slight understeer vs oversteer.

4)autox

currently running something like 38 / 36 and I don't mind playing / adjusting pressures for daily driving / canyon runs.

Thanks in advance!

Justin

 

Whoa, let's cool down here. 'Viper' has been around here a while and definitely knows a LOT about S2000s. Have you, s2000red07, not read some of his writeups and technical blogs? BUT, 'Viper', s2000red07 obviously has some very useful knowledge and was merely trying to help the unknowing S2000 community.

'Viper', you 'bit' s2000red07's head off when he posted his interpretation of what you said. This is a public forum and everything is open to interpretation, like it or not. I did find you post to be a bit cocky. You also generalized the entire S2KI community and made it seem like everyone is under your control "we're not going to ask all of these questions first before giving an answer."

Also, just because someone is a 'newbie' doesn't mean squat. Sure, they may be new to this particular forum, but do you knoe everything they have done/been/know? I think not. For all you know he could be the original designer of the S2000; he could also be a stupid 17yr old rich kid who copied his original post from another source (not saying you are, s2000red07, just making a point).

I'm going to have to side with s2000red07 on this one. 'Viper' are you going to gripe at me because I'm a 'newbie'?

Why can't we all just get along?

 

OK, let's pick apart my post in a more sensible way .......................
Where's the cockiness in this? Where's the "insolence"? Is this not true? Each and every time someone asks this, who's going to ask all the pertinent questions that needs to be asked? You? Be my guest. In the history of this forum, when someone has asked this question, NOONE has asked what the driving conditions would be, so please be my guest and be the first one to do this over and over and over again.

What's "cocky and insolent" about this statement? Is this not a logical and proper response?

Where's the "cockiness and insolence" in this? Is this statement not true?

This is called "JOCULARITY". IE, adding a little humour to the situation. You know .............. like in "sense of humour"?

Where's the falsehood in these statements? Where's the "cockiness and insolence"?

Is this not also true? Those who drive these cars on the track and those who drive the car safely in a spirited manner DO know about tire pressures. The rest do not know what details to post when asking the question.

Or do you think I should spend even more time helping someone who doesn't provide adequate information to obtain an adequate answer? Or do you actually think we can "guess" what the owner's driving conditions are and give out possibly wrong information?

Balboa, no, there is nothing wrong with being a newbie here. I took great offense that Red misinterpretted my intentions of my post, questioned my value to this community (which has been proven time and time again), and ended with this SMARTASS remarked: [B]"You

 

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Viper - I usually find your recommendations spot on, and at times I follow your advice simply based on the logic of your arguments. This time, however, I must cry foul. I just hope that others have the common sense to not follow your recommendations put forth here (the recommendations made through proxy).

I followed your 'Correct tire pressure for newbs' link, and was confused and disgusted that you would even suggest this as a technical resource.

Here's my experience:

I asked "What is the right tire pressure for a Honda S2000?"



It answered



No, actually it's not, what is the proper tire pressure for my S2000?



Isn't your job to answer my questions?!?!?



So, should I overinflate my tires to gain performance but potentially lose MPG?



So you agree that overinflation of the tire pressure might be a good thing?



Wait a second, it's not a good idea?



Should I inflate my tires with shaving cream?



You don't really know, do you?




As you can clearly see, XViper's suggested technical resource is not reliable.


PS - Anyone else running their S02s with shaving cream in them?

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This is a question that HAS been bugging me, and I never really thought about all the possible variables that the answer depends on.