Nice post Ortho!

I have this dog, and every time I let her out she goes around and pisses on all the bushes, then if another dog comes around she first sticks her nose up their butt and then growls.

 

soooo... someone answer my questions

 

[QUOTE=xviper,Oct 17 2005, 12:10 PM] I took great offense that Red misinterpretted my intentions of my post, questioned my value to this community (which has been proven time and time again), and ended with this SMARTASS remarked: [B]"You

 

I'm with Viper. He's right. I totally understand why he stopped being a moderator. There's an old computer phrase: "Garbage in, Garbage out." I'd suggest the right phrase for our site is: "Bullshit in, Bullshit out."

To anyone offended by Viper: Grow a set, and get a life!

 

I believe this post has (unfortunately) taken a turn for the worse.

s2000red07 posted information that I believe was (is) valuable for those individuals who are not aware of all the factors that go into selecting the proper tire pressure to run on their vehicle, wether it be an S2000 or beater.

I have been driving performance cars for forty years and still found his post to be a good refresher on what to think about when deciding on correct tire pressures.

X Viper- I believe your reply, while not insolent, was trite. Since you are no longer a moderator, your posts vary from helpful to hurtful (read harmful). I realize that after many years on the forum, your patience wears thin, but I think what is best for the community should prevail.

Balboa's reply was right on the mark. Just because an individual is a guest, or has one star does not mean the person is completely devoid of knowledge about automobiles. It simply means they are new to the S2K community.

 

Are you suggesting that it's time for me to leave? If that is the prevailing wish of those on this site (please take a poll), I shall leave and never be seen again (or would you like me to start one?). I am truly insulted by your post. I demand that you take a poll. I shall abide by whatever the results may be. I'm getting sick of people coming to this site (including those I've known for a long time) and misinterpreting stuff I post, getting their panties up in a knot and slamming me for what they perceive as my ill intention.
You're damn right my patience is wearing thin.

 

anyway, i'll start a new thread on this subject in a week or so, hopefully we can get the conversation going!!

 

I hate to get into the air pressure issue but Xviper is correct. There is no way to know exactly what the customer wants. To be exact the air pressure would need to be adjusted on a daily basis depending on the weather, roads and load of the car. For everyday driving I just don't see people doing that. What I do see is people never even checking the air pressure. A couple lbs. more will provide better performance at the sacrifice of ride.
I hate to get into any name calling at all and hope everyone can just get along. Xviper does not get paid to answer questions and neither do I. I enjoy the forums and try to help as much as I can but sometimes you can't think about every situation that may come up.
I do think that the air pressure recommended by Honda is a good starting poing and to be exact you would need a heat pyrometer and test them in 3 locations across the tread as soon as you stop driving.
I just don't see people doing that even on the track.
I hope the post are helpful.

 

The way I saw these arguments is that both of them are corrected in some ways.

Xviper is corrected in that there is no way to know exactly what a particular driver wants if he/she does not give details in his/her question, to give correct recommendations.

s2000red07 is corrected to bring into discussions about varieties of tire pressures may effect performance, fuel economy, tire wear and ride. Car manufactures recommendation is usually for softer ride (and fuel economy).

I always have at least 2psi above car manufacture recommendation and found that performance, fuel economy and tire wear improved but the ride is stiffer (or firmer). Since tire loose pressure over time, approximately 1 psi a month, I rather inflate all my cars 2 psi to 4 psi above recommendations so that I do not need to go to gas station to inflate the tire(s) every month.

Can we all get along ?

 

This is where the misunderstanding and misinterpretation started. This was never about who was right or who was wrong. I never disputed the correctness of "Reds" information. I was pointing out the LOGISTICS of determining all of these parameters when a total stranger asks this question. I NEVER stated that anyone posted up wrong information, but merely how difficult it is to determine each enquirer's precise driving parameters so that a specific answer could be given. In light of this, a "generalized" answer is to follow what Honda recommended "as a starting point". It was at this point, that I was beat up for being insolent and "trite". Has anyone ever heard of the "Devil's Advocate" in a debate?