Wheel Fitment Guide
#1201
First off all Sorry for the daft question. I have read all 48 pages of this topic and I am still confused. I purchased an S2000 6 months ago in Ireland and I am looking to either refurbish the existing wheels or upgrade. I cannot find a set of OEM 17s anywhere and I have been on to 4 different alloy wheel companies and everyone tells me something different. I have a company quoting me 17 x 8 et35 all round but reading this post the offset is too high and will not work. Can anyone please help I just want a set of alloys and tyres that will not compromise the handling or ride but will fit on a standard setup. Either that or maybe I should just get the current wheels refurbished.
Any websites help or advise is greatly appreciated
Thanks
Colm
Any websites help or advise is greatly appreciated
Thanks
Colm
4. What fits?
Many people have tried many different wheels and tires on the S2000. Along the way, a lot of people have had problems with rubbing. Some had a little rubbing, and some had none. With all of this experimentation, a few things were figured out. The information below is not the drop dead final word of what will and will not fit. Certain things can be done to make something fit that otherwise wouldn't, such as increasing negative camber, running narrow tires, and rolling fenders, but that adds a lot of variability to this equation and thus is difficult to predict. We'll assume the owner has had a proper alignment, uses tires recommended for the chosen wheel width, and hasn't modified their fenders.
Based on successes and failures from many S2000 owners, we can use an offset calculator to figure out what other offsets and tires will work. These are minimum recommended offsets. You can use a higher offset if you want, and you will get additional fender clearance.
For the front:
Offsets lower than +43 are not recommended on the front because a very narrow tire would need to be used to avoid rubbing.
+43 to +47 offset: 205 tires, 6.5" - 7.5" wide wheel
+48 to +52 offset: 215 tires, 7.0" - 8.0" wide wheel
+53 to +57 offset: 225 tires, 7.0" - 8.0" wide wheel
+58 to +62 offset: 235 tires, 7.5" - 8.5" wide wheel
+63 or higher offset: 245 tires, 7.5" - 8.5" wide wheel
For the rear:
Offsets below 40 are not recommended for the rear because a tire narrower than the stock tire would need to be used to avoid rubbing.
+40 to +44 offset: 235 tires, 7.5" - 8.5" wide wheel
+45 to +49 offset: 245 tires, 7.5" - 9.0" wide wheel
+50 to +54 offset: 255 tires, 8.0" - 9.5" wide wheel
+55 to +59 offset: 265 tires, 8.5" - 9.5" wide wheel
+60 to +64 offset: 275 tires, 9.0" - 10.0" wide wheel
+65 or higher offset: 285 tires, 9.0" - 10.0" wide wheel
Note: Verify wheel width by checking the tire manufacturer's specifications . These are guidelines that should work for most wheel and tire combinations.
The offsets above will all set the outside edge of the tire to the same place relative to the outer fender, rounding to the nearest millimeter.
Of course, the wheel width must be chosen to fit the tire you plan to use. You can�t stuff a 275 on a 7� wide wheel, and you wouldn�t want to use a 9� wide wheel with a 205 tire. Read the specs on the tires you want to use, and figure out what wheel width you should use.
4.1 OEM Fitments
For reference, the OEM MY00-03 (AP1) wheel sizes and offsets are as follows:
Front:
16" x 6.5", +55 offset, 205 tire
Rear:
16" x 7.5", +65 offset, 225 tire
and the OEM MY04+ (AP2) wheels are as follows:
Front:
17" x 7.0", +55 offset, 215 tire
Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, 245 tire (255 on the S2000 CR)
Many people have tried many different wheels and tires on the S2000. Along the way, a lot of people have had problems with rubbing. Some had a little rubbing, and some had none. With all of this experimentation, a few things were figured out. The information below is not the drop dead final word of what will and will not fit. Certain things can be done to make something fit that otherwise wouldn't, such as increasing negative camber, running narrow tires, and rolling fenders, but that adds a lot of variability to this equation and thus is difficult to predict. We'll assume the owner has had a proper alignment, uses tires recommended for the chosen wheel width, and hasn't modified their fenders.
Based on successes and failures from many S2000 owners, we can use an offset calculator to figure out what other offsets and tires will work. These are minimum recommended offsets. You can use a higher offset if you want, and you will get additional fender clearance.
For the front:
Offsets lower than +43 are not recommended on the front because a very narrow tire would need to be used to avoid rubbing.
+43 to +47 offset: 205 tires, 6.5" - 7.5" wide wheel
+48 to +52 offset: 215 tires, 7.0" - 8.0" wide wheel
+53 to +57 offset: 225 tires, 7.0" - 8.0" wide wheel
+58 to +62 offset: 235 tires, 7.5" - 8.5" wide wheel
+63 or higher offset: 245 tires, 7.5" - 8.5" wide wheel
For the rear:
Offsets below 40 are not recommended for the rear because a tire narrower than the stock tire would need to be used to avoid rubbing.
+40 to +44 offset: 235 tires, 7.5" - 8.5" wide wheel
+45 to +49 offset: 245 tires, 7.5" - 9.0" wide wheel
+50 to +54 offset: 255 tires, 8.0" - 9.5" wide wheel
+55 to +59 offset: 265 tires, 8.5" - 9.5" wide wheel
+60 to +64 offset: 275 tires, 9.0" - 10.0" wide wheel
+65 or higher offset: 285 tires, 9.0" - 10.0" wide wheel
Note: Verify wheel width by checking the tire manufacturer's specifications . These are guidelines that should work for most wheel and tire combinations.
The offsets above will all set the outside edge of the tire to the same place relative to the outer fender, rounding to the nearest millimeter.
Of course, the wheel width must be chosen to fit the tire you plan to use. You can�t stuff a 275 on a 7� wide wheel, and you wouldn�t want to use a 9� wide wheel with a 205 tire. Read the specs on the tires you want to use, and figure out what wheel width you should use.
4.1 OEM Fitments
For reference, the OEM MY00-03 (AP1) wheel sizes and offsets are as follows:
Front:
16" x 6.5", +55 offset, 205 tire
Rear:
16" x 7.5", +65 offset, 225 tire
and the OEM MY04+ (AP2) wheels are as follows:
Front:
17" x 7.0", +55 offset, 215 tire
Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, 245 tire (255 on the S2000 CR)
http://www.autoanything.com/wheels-r...FQcKaQodNs4Jfg
Do some quick searches on this forum to get an idea. Just search the wheel size and offset you're looking for, or search fender rolling to see the sizes people had to start rolling their fenders, checkout some more threads if this one is confusing. There's other things to consider, are you still at stock ride height? Do you expect to go lower? Many many many scenarios have already been asked and answered. It's also really hard to answer a question so general.
#1202
Site Moderator
First off all Sorry for the daft question. I have read all 48 pages of this topic and I am still confused. I purchased an S2000 6 months ago in Ireland and I am looking to either refurbish the existing wheels or upgrade. I cannot find a set of OEM 17s anywhere and I have been on to 4 different alloy wheel companies and everyone tells me something different. I have a company quoting me 17 x 8 et35 all round but reading this post the offset is too high and will not work. Can anyone please help I just want a set of alloys and tyres that will not compromise the handling or ride but will fit on a standard setup. Either that or maybe I should just get the current wheels refurbished.
Any websites help or advise is greatly appreciated
Thanks
Colm
Any websites help or advise is greatly appreciated
Thanks
Colm
Front:
17" x 7.0", +55 offset, 215 tire
Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, 245 tire (255 on the S2000 CR)
There is a few wheels that come in sizes close or the same but they aren't cheap. Enkei, Volk, TSW, all make options.
#1203
Thank you for the reply.
I did see the first section and did send the company who quoted the alloys
They where adamant that this was the correct fitment from the manufacture of the alloys. So when you go to a company called performance alloys you expect them to know what they are talking about. I have read all 48 pages and the variation from page to page talking about rolled arches pulled arches and lowered suspension is great if you are looking to modify your car in this manner. but I just wanted to to finish the car with some nice alloys.
I did find this link and at least they had done a few cars and seemed to know what they were talking about. I will see if they deliver to Ireland
http://www.rotashop.co.uk/blog/2011/...-s2000-part-1/
Thanks again
Colm
I did see the first section and did send the company who quoted the alloys
They where adamant that this was the correct fitment from the manufacture of the alloys. So when you go to a company called performance alloys you expect them to know what they are talking about. I have read all 48 pages and the variation from page to page talking about rolled arches pulled arches and lowered suspension is great if you are looking to modify your car in this manner. but I just wanted to to finish the car with some nice alloys.
I did find this link and at least they had done a few cars and seemed to know what they were talking about. I will see if they deliver to Ireland
http://www.rotashop.co.uk/blog/2011/...-s2000-part-1/
Thanks again
Colm
#1204
Site Moderator
You clearly are not paying attention. That guy should have his fenders rolled with those wheels. Especially if he went with the 17x9 int he rear. Not to mention if you have OEM 17's they are 8.5 inch wide in the rear so going to an 8 inch wide rear wheel is a downgrade. Stop trying to buy something right this second spend some time looking for the best option not the first option.
#1205
I'm totally clueless about all of this even after reading this whole thread. so ill probably will get bashed on lol so i have a set of rims 17x7.5 +45 front 17x8.5 +37 read from my understanding the front will fit with no need for fender roll, but the rear might need a slight fender roll depending on tire size and ride height, is this correct? i spent months of research and i just want to double check please correct me if im wrong
#1207
I'm looking up buy some ESR SR06 wheels. I have downforce fenders in the front (+30mm) and rolled rears.
http://esrwheels.com/products/sr06
The available options are:
1) 18x8.5 +30
2) 18x9.5 +35 or +22
3) 18x10.5 +22
It has been suggested that I get #1 for the front and #2 +35 for the rear
I'd don't want to run lots of camber or super stretched tire but would like the fender to overhang the tire just slightly while remaining fairly flush. I only use the car for cruisin around. It's not my dd and I don't track it. Are the sizes suggested to me correct? What size tires could I run? Thanks!!!
Kind of like this:
http://esrwheels.com/products/sr06
The available options are:
1) 18x8.5 +30
2) 18x9.5 +35 or +22
3) 18x10.5 +22
It has been suggested that I get #1 for the front and #2 +35 for the rear
I'd don't want to run lots of camber or super stretched tire but would like the fender to overhang the tire just slightly while remaining fairly flush. I only use the car for cruisin around. It's not my dd and I don't track it. Are the sizes suggested to me correct? What size tires could I run? Thanks!!!
Kind of like this:
#1210
Can someone point me in the right direction for a set of Mugen GP wheels in s2k fitment (17X7.5 +52 Offset 17X8.5 +59 Offset)? I'm looking for the best performance. I'm guessing a 225/45 front and 255/40 rear would be the correct sizing. I plan on using RE71R tires.