Here we go again...
For those of you who know me, and my propensity to change cars often, this will come as no surprise. I'm kinda sorta in the market for a car again, sometime between now and Feb/Mar.
This time though, after reflecting on SO MANY irrational and emotional purchases (and the ensuing financial setbacks), I decided to create my own decision program. It's mostly based on the typical car comparison tables printed by Car & Driver, Road & Track, etc, but with my own twists on it. This way, I can "level the playing field" a bit, and consider each car on the whole with every emotional and financial facet accounted for. Best score wins.
If you guys wouldn't mind, could you check it out and see if there are any cars or subjects I've overlooked, or if anything could use changing/refining?
This table was created on the basis of an $20k budget. Some of the cars included may be very difficult to find for that price, but possible, given the nature of my work and the trade-ins that come in. I have personally driven all of these cars with the exception of the 2012 Fiat, and it's numbers are based on what I've read about it and how it compares to my tastes. In the case of the '07 Fit, it's in here to see how it stacks up if I were to just keep it.
A few details on what some of the values are based on:
The first section, with the "Excitement", "Engine", etc are all pretty much self explanatory, each is assigned a number based on my experience with that vehicle and how they appeal to my preferences.
In the second section, "Price" refers to how much of the $20k budget the car is. (In the case of the 2011 Z4is, it is a company lease, and the points are based on how the lease payment compares to an equivalent payment on a $20k car.) If a car has at least of two years of warranty remaining, it gets full points. If no warranty, no points. "Maintenance" points are based on how much i would have to maintain the car, and the relative cost of parts/labor. "Fuel economy" points are based on the calculated annual $ spent on fuel, for my specific driving habits that I've been keeping track of for the last 12 months, cars with best fuel economy get full points, and the rest are based on how close they are to that benchmark.
In the third section, "Resale" points are based on which are projected to hold to their current value the best. For the 2011 Z4, it gets no points as it is a lease and there is no resale. "Tempt to Mod" refers to how tempting it is to spend a bunch of money on mods. Low points means lots and lots of mod money spent, most points awarded to the cars who I feel are pretty close to perfect.
So please, help me out and help me perfect this system. I realize you guys are kinda biased to the S2k, but ANY input would be appreciated.
This time though, after reflecting on SO MANY irrational and emotional purchases (and the ensuing financial setbacks), I decided to create my own decision program. It's mostly based on the typical car comparison tables printed by Car & Driver, Road & Track, etc, but with my own twists on it. This way, I can "level the playing field" a bit, and consider each car on the whole with every emotional and financial facet accounted for. Best score wins.
If you guys wouldn't mind, could you check it out and see if there are any cars or subjects I've overlooked, or if anything could use changing/refining?
This table was created on the basis of an $20k budget. Some of the cars included may be very difficult to find for that price, but possible, given the nature of my work and the trade-ins that come in. I have personally driven all of these cars with the exception of the 2012 Fiat, and it's numbers are based on what I've read about it and how it compares to my tastes. In the case of the '07 Fit, it's in here to see how it stacks up if I were to just keep it.
A few details on what some of the values are based on:
The first section, with the "Excitement", "Engine", etc are all pretty much self explanatory, each is assigned a number based on my experience with that vehicle and how they appeal to my preferences.
In the second section, "Price" refers to how much of the $20k budget the car is. (In the case of the 2011 Z4is, it is a company lease, and the points are based on how the lease payment compares to an equivalent payment on a $20k car.) If a car has at least of two years of warranty remaining, it gets full points. If no warranty, no points. "Maintenance" points are based on how much i would have to maintain the car, and the relative cost of parts/labor. "Fuel economy" points are based on the calculated annual $ spent on fuel, for my specific driving habits that I've been keeping track of for the last 12 months, cars with best fuel economy get full points, and the rest are based on how close they are to that benchmark.
In the third section, "Resale" points are based on which are projected to hold to their current value the best. For the 2011 Z4, it gets no points as it is a lease and there is no resale. "Tempt to Mod" refers to how tempting it is to spend a bunch of money on mods. Low points means lots and lots of mod money spent, most points awarded to the cars who I feel are pretty close to perfect.
So please, help me out and help me perfect this system. I realize you guys are kinda biased to the S2k, but ANY input would be appreciated.

I'm having a similar dillema right now for my second car as payments for the S have ended.
Torn between somehing towards VIP style vs. street toy.
I can't dive into the BMW / Benz / Audi ballpark because everyone I ask says they cost too much to maintain.
Also can't get over the ugliness of the BMW interior.
So far I have it down to these two:




I haven't driven any of the above so that's pending.
Word is the EVO interior is complete shit.
I am also excited about trying out the Abarth but every time I take a second look at that car, it's just way too girly.
Have you thought about something pre-modified? I'm talking about a nicely done S14 or S15 from Cali like this can't be more than $20k:

Of course, you're in a different boat as it will be your primary car.
I would like another S2k-level car such as the Mini/NSX but there's just too much overlap and not enough garage space
Of course, when I hit it big, I'm going to have one of each of these iconic JDM masterpieces in my stable
Here's my eval:
Z4M: Haven't driven it but you say it rawks.
S2k: Gotta have one.
Abarth: Unknown. Likely fail FWD cruiser.
WRX Wagon: Not feeling these. Almost looks like a Buick.
Mugen/Civic SI: FWD fail
Mini S: Very cute, still FWD but feels good inside.
M3: Curiously every s2ki'er that has gone M3/335 has sold theirs within a month and gone back to an s2k
M5: V8 M3
RSX: FWD
GTO: Straight line only. Likely the last of sexy curvy body ever made.
FIT: Meh
E30: Always loved the look of these. Saw a clean one on the freeway the other day and couldn't stop starting at it. Admirable but you probably don't want to own one.
Torn between somehing towards VIP style vs. street toy.
I can't dive into the BMW / Benz / Audi ballpark because everyone I ask says they cost too much to maintain.
Also can't get over the ugliness of the BMW interior.
So far I have it down to these two:




I haven't driven any of the above so that's pending.
Word is the EVO interior is complete shit.
I am also excited about trying out the Abarth but every time I take a second look at that car, it's just way too girly.
Have you thought about something pre-modified? I'm talking about a nicely done S14 or S15 from Cali like this can't be more than $20k:

Of course, you're in a different boat as it will be your primary car.
I would like another S2k-level car such as the Mini/NSX but there's just too much overlap and not enough garage space

Of course, when I hit it big, I'm going to have one of each of these iconic JDM masterpieces in my stable

Here's my eval:
Z4M: Haven't driven it but you say it rawks.
S2k: Gotta have one.
Abarth: Unknown. Likely fail FWD cruiser.
WRX Wagon: Not feeling these. Almost looks like a Buick.
Mugen/Civic SI: FWD fail
Mini S: Very cute, still FWD but feels good inside.
M3: Curiously every s2ki'er that has gone M3/335 has sold theirs within a month and gone back to an s2k
M5: V8 M3
RSX: FWD
GTO: Straight line only. Likely the last of sexy curvy body ever made.
FIT: Meh
E30: Always loved the look of these. Saw a clean one on the freeway the other day and couldn't stop starting at it. Admirable but you probably don't want to own one.
Looks like the E30 M3 is kickin ass! There's one (1988) for sale in Tucson with 90k miles. He's up on EBAY and it's a very clean car! That would be a nice car to own for a while, but I'm not sure I'd DD it. If I could find an E30 M3 in decent condition for the right price, I'd scoop that up very quickly and if you get bored with it, it's still going to be worth every dime you paid for it and I bet you would definitely enjoy it more than a new Z4 35is!
Another thing I noticed in your graph is, the prices of a 2006 S2000 and GTO are the same as a Z4M, E46 M3, and E39 M5. If this is true, then you are able to get all of these cars for around 16k dollars, a lot less than what the BMWs usually go for, which means your resale points given are skewed.
Another thing I noticed in your graph is, the prices of a 2006 S2000 and GTO are the same as a Z4M, E46 M3, and E39 M5. If this is true, then you are able to get all of these cars for around 16k dollars, a lot less than what the BMWs usually go for, which means your resale points given are skewed.
I'm having a similar dillema right now for my second car as payments for the S have ended.
Torn between somehing towards VIP style vs. street toy.
I can't dive into the BMW / Benz / Audi ballpark because everyone I ask says they cost too much to maintain.
Also can't get over the ugliness of the BMW interior.
So far I have it down to these two:




I haven't driven any of the above so that's pending.
Word is the EVO interior is complete shit.
Torn between somehing towards VIP style vs. street toy.
I can't dive into the BMW / Benz / Audi ballpark because everyone I ask says they cost too much to maintain.
Also can't get over the ugliness of the BMW interior.
So far I have it down to these two:




I haven't driven any of the above so that's pending.
Word is the EVO interior is complete shit.
I am also excited about trying out the Abarth but every time I take a second look at that car, it's just way too girly.
Have you thought about something pre-modified? I'm talking about a nicely done S14 or S15 from Cali like this can't be more than $20k:

Of course, you're in a different boat as it will be your primary car.
I would like another S2k-level car such as the Mini/NSX but there's just too much overlap and not enough garage space

Of course, when I hit it big, I'm going to have one of each of these iconic JDM masterpieces in my stable
Here's my eval:
Z4M: Haven't driven it but you say it rawks.
Z4M: Haven't driven it but you say it rawks.
S2k: Gotta have one.
Abarth: Unknown. Likely fail FWD cruiser.
WRX Wagon: Not feeling these. Almost looks like a Buick.
Mugen/Civic SI: FWD fail
Mini S: Very cute, still FWD but feels good inside.
M3: Curiously every s2ki'er that has gone M3/335 has sold theirs within a month and gone back to an s2k
M5: V8 M3
M5: V8 M3
RSX: FWD
GTO: Straight line only. Likely the last of sexy curvy body ever made.
FIT: Meh
E30: Always loved the look of these. Saw a clean one on the freeway the other day and couldn't stop starting at it. Admirable but you probably don't want to own one.
Thanks Ivan for the input!
Looks like the E30 M3 is kickin ass! There's one (1988) for sale in Tucson with 90k miles. He's up on EBAY and it's a very clean car! That would be a nice car to own for a while, but I'm not sure I'd DD it. If I could find an E30 M3 in decent condition for the right price, I'd scoop that up very quickly and if you get bored with it, it's still going to be worth every dime you paid for it and I bet you would definitely enjoy it more than a new Z4 35is!
Another thing I noticed in your graph is, the prices of a 2006 S2000 and GTO are the same as a Z4M, E46 M3, and E39 M5. If this is true, then you are able to get all of these cars for around 16k dollars, a lot less than what the BMWs usually go for, which means your resale points given are skewed.
Thanks Simmy!
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LOL at trying to create logic out of buying a car. If one was to buy a car using logic you would buy a Civic or similar every time since it would combine the best blend of safety, dependability and low cost to own. Buying a new car when you already have reasonable transportation is a strictly emotional decision. Get the one you love the most.
But my vote would be to get another S2000! I'm also a perennial car buyer and out of the dozens of vehicles I've had over the years, the S is the one I keep coming back to. I'm on my third now and won't be getting rid of this one ever!
But my vote would be to get another S2000! I'm also a perennial car buyer and out of the dozens of vehicles I've had over the years, the S is the one I keep coming back to. I'm on my third now and won't be getting rid of this one ever!



