o_O S2000 | Mk I — Stage II
04-22-2015, 07:16 AM
#1701
Originally Posted by WhyW' timestamp='1429662797' post='23586581
But I thought you were switching to 12K F/R once you went to a square setup, or are you keeping 10/10?
How often do you attend track days?
04-22-2015, 08:51 AM
#1702
Thread Starter
I think I have gone to 12 different track days since getting the car 2.5 years ago? I haven't gone to any yet this year due to work and trying to diagnose that stupid clicking issue. (Which is no longer an issue!) Hoping to make a Sonoma/Laguna double header coming up next month. I put in around 30min to an hour of actual seat time a week about 40 weeks out of the year in the mountains. Sometimes much more.
04-22-2015, 03:52 PM
#1703
Originally Posted by WhyW' timestamp='1429660527' post='23586537
Why the ASM? Evasive, Rob Walker, and plenty of people (including myself but that's not saying anything at all) run the Eibach sway and it's a great piece for 1/4 the price of the ASM. Plus the Eibach is adjustable too. In fact Rob posted a review on the Eibach and seems to really like it. You may have seen it already, it's on s2ki somewhere.
Here's the link
Here's the link
You're correct. It's a small overall percentage but it can achieve stiffer than Ap1. It also has an option for running softer, which broadens the use range on the eibach bar over the OEM.
There are multiple ways to skin a cat. Some like to do so with bar, some with spring - but overall these mods all serve as different tuning points to get the harmony of the suspension just how you want it. No car will drive the same on every track, which is why having these options available can be beneficial. This discussion can get uber-lengthy so I'll just leave it at that
04-23-2015, 10:43 AM
#1704
I prefer to get most of my roll resistance from springs rather than bars, because they're 100% linear, and therefore *potentially* more transparent in feel.
JMHO.
04-23-2015, 10:46 AM
#1705
Thread Starter
I want to add one comment here ... sway bars have a somewhat nonlinear effect, in that first you have to compress the bushings, before the bar acts as a spring. Maybe that's a non-issue, if you're running stiff bushings. With a street car on rubber bushings, maybe it's not.
I prefer to get most of my roll resistance from springs rather than bars, because they're 100% linear, and therefore *potentially* more transparent in feel.
JMHO.
I prefer to get most of my roll resistance from springs rather than bars, because they're 100% linear, and therefore *potentially* more transparent in feel.
JMHO.
04-23-2015, 11:04 AM
#1706
Originally Posted by Sebring AP1' timestamp='1429746733' post='23587893
There are multiple ways to skin a cat. Some like to do so with bar, some with spring - but overall these mods all serve as different tuning points to get the harmony of the suspension just how you want it.
I prefer to get most of my roll resistance from springs rather than bars, because they're 100% linear, and therefore *potentially* more transparent in feel.
JMHO.
Originally Posted by grubinski' timestamp='1429814605' post='23588781
I want to add one comment here ... sway bars have a somewhat nonlinear effect, in that first you have to compress the bushings, before the bar acts as a spring. Maybe that's a non-issue, if you're running stiff bushings. With a street car on rubber bushings, maybe it's not.
I prefer to get most of my roll resistance from springs rather than bars, because they're 100% linear, and therefore *potentially* more transparent in feel.
JMHO.
I prefer to get most of my roll resistance from springs rather than bars, because they're 100% linear, and therefore *potentially* more transparent in feel.
JMHO.
Correct. I prefer the softer spring and more bar. It goes to preference. Kinda the beauty of tuning.
04-23-2015, 11:09 AM
#1707
Thread Starter
Bottom line with sway bars is that they are much easier to adjust and change than spring rate is. It's not incredibly difficult to swap out springs, but ride height is always going to change slightly as well so it all has to be accounted for. If you adjust ride height to compensate for new springs then alignment will change, and so on.
04-23-2015, 12:06 PM
#1708
Registered User
Originally Posted by Sebring AP1' timestamp='1429815882' post='23588817
Correct. I prefer the softer spring and more bar. It goes to preference. Kinda the beauty of tuning.
Bottom line with sway bars is that they are much easier to adjust and change than spring rate is. It's not incredibly difficult to swap out springs, but ride height is always going to change slightly as well so it all has to be accounted for. If you adjust ride height to compensate for new springs then alignment will change, and so on.
