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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Disgustipated
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What's an evo or sti going to destroy a tt rs in? Neither are very fast at all out of the box.
EVO outhandles a TTRS stock vs stock. The ttrs has a garbage Haldex awd system with fwdesque understeer. EVO X has one of the best awd systems around next to the GTR.

Nice! I need to test drive an evo X. The look has been growing on me!
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Moddiction
Originally Posted by Disgustipated' timestamp='1371332153' post='22610739
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What's an evo or sti going to destroy a tt rs in? Neither are very fast at all out of the box.
EVO outhandles a TTRS stock vs stock. The ttrs has a garbage Haldex awd system with fwdesque understeer. EVO X has one of the best awd systems around next to the GTR.

Nice! I need to test drive an evo X. The look has been growing on me!
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I drove a lightly modded Evo VIII MR way back when, and it blew my mind. The steering combined the quickness of an AP1 w/ the feel of a Porsche. Unfortunately, my gf at the time (now my wife) was really against it based on the looks. A X would prob. be more do-able since they look a lot nicer IMO.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 08:39 AM
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Yeah the new ones seem to be better in all ways. Looks with a drop and some nice wheels look really nice I think! Crazy easy hp gains with them too since they are so rich from the factory. Tune only gains are like 70whp I think
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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The biggest challenge is that I'd want a MR w/ the DCT, and it apparently doesn't handle a lot of extra hp well.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:40 AM
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Ah yeah. As fast as the DCT shifts I would rather have a manual evo X. I have heard that trans can't take as much power as the others unfortunately.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 05:29 PM
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1. My son who's looking to upgrade his 09 Scion tc (another thread), has been told to check out the C5 Vette to get what he's looking for in low end torque.
2. A friend has an 02 that is wonderful: 350hp and 400 torque, really fun.
3. He said not to buy one for a daily driver, and since he'd need to get snows for winter driving here in Indy, some say don't, others say, it's a car, you can.
4. What do you think? He puts about 8k miles on a year (30k miles in 4 yrs.)
5. If he drives one, he'll probably really like it, unless the size throws him, he's rejected the Genesis, Accord 6, Mustang b/c of size.
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Old Jun 16, 2013 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by s2kpdx01
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What's an evo or sti going to destroy a tt rs? Neither are very fast at all out of the box.
driver matters most and i've never met anyone that owns a TT that could drive for shit.
You don't take into account new transmission technology with a simple "D" function or one of multiple pre-programmed computer settings that can all shift better than any human with the best 3-pedal manual. These new dual-clutch transmissions deliver power seamlessly and without interruption and are far "smarter" than you or I; Why do you think it clocks 100km (62mph) in 3.6s with "only" 335bhp? AWD + a smart transmission that's geared perfectly for the car and power output. Show me an Evo, STI, base C6 or C5Z that can do that bone stock, in nearly any weather, consistently and repeatedly with the "average" driver at the helm. Not happening. I can post documented stock numbers for all these cars:

C/D TEST RESULTS: TT-RS
Zero to 60 mph: 3.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 17.0 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.1 sec @ 113 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 155 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 161 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.95 g

Only limitation against the follow cars is top speed (governed). And the grip is within a small margin of one another between the following cars, skidpad and slalom:

C/D Quote C5Z:

Our test car's engine, with just 1400 miles on it, accelerated to 60 mph in 4.3 seconds and covered the quarter-mile in 12.7 seconds at 113 mph. That makes this Z06 half a second quicker than the fastest C5 we've ever tested and quicker than the ZR-1 model that ruled the Corvette roost from 1990 to 1995. Among remotely affordable cars, only the Dodge Viper GTS is quicker.

Winner: TT

C/D Quote, C6 LS3 (08'):

The new Vette runs from 0 to 60 mph in 4.0 seconds and clears the quarter-mile in 12.4 seconds at 116 mph, compared with 4.3 seconds and 12.8 seconds at 109 mph for the 911.

Winner: TT

I don't even need to mention the EVO or STI, and a C6Z only pulls away from it up top and not by a huge margin.

Numbers don't lie, and the people talking shit about lesser cars (the ones mentioned in the last few pages) beating a TT-RS show just how much they (don't) know about current cars. Yes, the car is overpriced. So are a LOT of others.

And I don't even like the TT-RS.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AP1Driver
Originally Posted by s2kpdx01' timestamp='1371260361' post='22609679
[quote name='Moddiction' timestamp='1371258845' post='22609657']
What's an evo or sti going to destroy a tt rs? Neither are very fast at all out of the box.
driver matters most and i've never met anyone that owns a TT that could drive for shit.
You don't take into account new transmission technology with a simple "D" function or one of multiple pre-programmed computer settings that can all shift better than any human with the best 3-pedal manual. These new dual-clutch transmissions deliver power seamlessly and without interruption and are far "smarter" than you or I; Why do you think it clocks 100km (62mph) in 3.6s with "only" 335bhp? AWD + a smart transmission that's geared perfectly for the car and power output. Show me an Evo, STI, base C6 or C5Z that can do that bone stock, in nearly any weather, consistently and repeatedly with the "average" driver at the helm. Not happening. I can post documented stock numbers for all these cars:

C/D TEST RESULTS: TT-RS
Zero to 60 mph: 3.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 17.0 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.1 sec @ 113 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 155 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 161 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.95 g

Only limitation against the follow cars is top speed (governed). And the grip is within a small margin of one another between the following cars, skidpad and slalom:

C/D Quote C5Z:

Our test car's engine, with just 1400 miles on it, accelerated to 60 mph in 4.3 seconds and covered the quarter-mile in 12.7 seconds at 113 mph. That makes this Z06 half a second quicker than the fastest C5 we've ever tested and quicker than the ZR-1 model that ruled the Corvette roost from 1990 to 1995. Among remotely affordable cars, only the Dodge Viper GTS is quicker.

Winner: TT

C/D Quote, C6 LS3 (08'):

The new Vette runs from 0 to 60 mph in 4.0 seconds and clears the quarter-mile in 12.4 seconds at 116 mph, compared with 4.3 seconds and 12.8 seconds at 109 mph for the 911.

Winner: TT

I don't even need to mention the EVO or STI, and a C6Z only pulls away from it up top and not by a huge margin.

Numbers don't lie, and the people talking shit about lesser cars (the ones mentioned in the last few pages) beating a TT-RS show just how much they (don't) know about current cars. Yes, the car is overpriced. So are a LOT of others.

And I don't even like the TT-RS.
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Meh, I'm going to have to go with Disgustipated on this one. The 50/50 torque biased AWD setup in the TT is rubbish, unless you like plowing through corners when you get on the throttle. What numbers are you saying don't lie? The straight line numbers? Sure, they are worth something, but you're preaching horsepower to an S2000 forum. I'll take a neutral handling chassis over straight line acceleration any day of the week.
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 06:31 AM
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The TT RS is quick straight line but that's about it. It's based on the FWD Golf chassis. Do I really need to go farther?
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Old Jun 17, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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Hopeless people. Never mind....
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