yes, of course they can but what you dont realize is most of the rules that non union airlines share was only brought on because the UNION PILOTS fought for it!

 

Training ≠ intelligence. Both are important in their own ways. I mean, you can train a monkey, but it will never have intelligence... Being a spot wielder on an assembly line is not as skilled a job as being a plane pilot, and the level of intelligence needed is not the same.

 

But more people have the training to be a pilot than have the training to be a successful CEO. The fact that it took a lot of training doesn't really make a difference.

At the end of the day, there are a lot of people with your skills. Many of those people are currently out of work or on furlough or reduced hours because of the problems in the airline industry. It's all about replacement cost. If you make $200k, and we lay you off and then offer your job up for $150k, you think we couldn't find 10 other people who would be thrilled to do your job for $150k? Of course we could.

 

how intelligent are these CEO's if all of their companies are going Bankrupt

 

Bad argument, what about those pilots that crash their planes?

In both cases, a small minority.

 

Ah, the old "if we get rid of unions, companies will take away your weekend!" argurment.

Yes, unions helped bring those rules about. Thanks. But, those rules are now here, and enforced by law. So why do we still need the union, if we have the rules?

 

of course, but being a CEO is really just being elected by the Board, and an MBA, but its not really a requirement, look at Gordon Bethune, he was a Continental Mechanic and he made it to CEO, turned CAL around, even wrote a book, "from worst to first", he did a great job

I would also like to note he too took a $40,000,000.00 Bonus after he asked all CAL employees to take huge paycuts..............

 

Did he do that great job because he was in the union?


If not, what's your point?

 

While I understand your point. You cannot make a direct comparison between the Military and a private company. There are WAY too many differences that make it IMPOSSIBLE to say "it worked here so it can work there"

 

I'll admit that I'm no expert in the airline industry, but if there were no unions and the entire workforce for an airline company were to walk out, in this climate I'm sure they will be able to get it back up and running within a quarter's time. You have to keep in mind, without the pressure of a union and having the threat of being replaced in a week's notice, a lot of paycheck to paycheck workers won't be so bold to walk out on a job they struggled to get into in the first place. The producer will lose a decent amount of money upfront, but given the starving unemployed airline workers out there, they'll save in the long run. Thing about unions is that if they were to walk out, the producer cannot hire without the unions' approval. Before there were union laws, when unions walked out and picketed, those picket lines weren't there for show, they were there to blockade potential workers from going in and out, harassing them and the such.
For example, if GM didn't have to deal with the UAW and does the ungodly thing of saying we're dying, we're cutting all wages to 35K a year, switching to 401k with no pension, and doing a high deductible health savings plan instead of hmo or ppo, take it or leave it, you will see a migration of unemployed workers waiting outside hawking to fill a vacated position. GM's stock will not suffer, and it will certainly do better in the long run.