Dated NSX
I continue to be amazed at the utterly meaningless reasons why the NSX is a better car than a Vette or anything else.
Aluminum construction?
8000 RPM redline?
An exotic body?
Aluminum control arms?
Titanium conecting rods?
A "better" interior?
Someone explain to everyone how any of the above translates naturally to a better car. The Z32 300ZXTT has 4-wheel stering and the NSX doesn't. I doubt anyone, including Z owners, would argue that as a reason their car is better than anyone else's hands-down. When you tally up the reasons being used to force others to believe in the NSX religion, it just doesn't make any sense.
The *ONLY* tangible benefits, by numbers alone, that an NSX has over a Vette or anything else is its reliability (even that is a maybe) and gas mileage (maybe by a very thin margin). Steve C would disagree with me on reliability, but I'd bet on a high mileage NSX before I would a Supra TT or anything else from Japan. That's just me. The superior balance argument is another subjective thing, as only race drivers can determine that, and that's debateable. If the NSX is so freaking good, how come Honda doesn't put 3 or 4 on the Mulsanne straight in June and prove it (btw, arguing their JGTC record to counter me doesn't count)? Mazda did it with the usually unreliable rotary design. Honda should be able to take this race no-contest by some peoples' measure.
All other benefits, again by numbers alone, go to the Vette or other cars, especially when considering price. I'm not going to argue emotional attachment, like some of you insist on doing as a proxy for losing the numbers arguments.
Aluminum construction?
8000 RPM redline?
An exotic body?
Aluminum control arms?
Titanium conecting rods?
A "better" interior?
Someone explain to everyone how any of the above translates naturally to a better car. The Z32 300ZXTT has 4-wheel stering and the NSX doesn't. I doubt anyone, including Z owners, would argue that as a reason their car is better than anyone else's hands-down. When you tally up the reasons being used to force others to believe in the NSX religion, it just doesn't make any sense.
The *ONLY* tangible benefits, by numbers alone, that an NSX has over a Vette or anything else is its reliability (even that is a maybe) and gas mileage (maybe by a very thin margin). Steve C would disagree with me on reliability, but I'd bet on a high mileage NSX before I would a Supra TT or anything else from Japan. That's just me. The superior balance argument is another subjective thing, as only race drivers can determine that, and that's debateable. If the NSX is so freaking good, how come Honda doesn't put 3 or 4 on the Mulsanne straight in June and prove it (btw, arguing their JGTC record to counter me doesn't count)? Mazda did it with the usually unreliable rotary design. Honda should be able to take this race no-contest by some peoples' measure.
All other benefits, again by numbers alone, go to the Vette or other cars, especially when considering price. I'm not going to argue emotional attachment, like some of you insist on doing as a proxy for losing the numbers arguments.
THE C5 Z06 IS NOT LIGHTER THAN THE HARDTOP 91-94 NSX. FACT.
Please don't compare the luxury version of the NSX to the barebones vette. It's not the same.
Please don't compare the luxury version of the NSX to the barebones vette. It's not the same.
Please don't imply that the E46 M3 engine is as reliable or well built as either the 3.0L or 3.2L NSX engine.
If you want info nsxprime.com has all you need. Go find an E46 with 200k+ miles on the stock engine. You won't.
If you want info nsxprime.com has all you need. Go find an E46 with 200k+ miles on the stock engine. You won't.
Originally Posted by Euclid,Jan 27 2005, 02:32 AM
That's a very poor attempt to make the NSX lighter than the z06. So now I can only use the weight of a early model NSX when comparing it to other cars? That's stupid. I don't see how the Z06 is a "barebones" vette. It has everything the standard vette does as far as options goes. So your argument is null, as much as a newer NSX is somehow a "luxury" version. It has the same stuff the early ones did, except now it has a targa top.
This is typical. Mixing and matching years when it suits them. Let's talk about HP...how many are going to quote the 91 nsx then!!
It is just silly. At least he tried using some evidence there....
Originally Posted by Euclid,Jan 26 2005, 08:32 PM
So now I can only use the weight of a early model NSX when comparing it to other cars? That's stupid.
One might conclude that your logic is stupid.
The current NSX does not have the same stuff the earlier one's had. Educate yourself.
Originally Posted by honda606,Jan 26 2005, 07:48 PM
It's an NSX isn't it?
One might conclude that your logic is stupid.
The current NSX does not have the same stuff the earlier one's had. Educate yourself.
One might conclude that your logic is stupid.
The current NSX does not have the same stuff the earlier one's had. Educate yourself.
I love the nsx, and would own one in a heartbeat, but man some of the people here are a bit extreme.
http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/General/changesbyyear.htm
Take a look and see what was added in 93, 94, 95, 97 and 2000.
Take a look and see what was added in 93, 94, 95, 97 and 2000.
The NSX is a dated joke. There are only around 200 people per year out there stupid enough to still purchase them -- and figure the majority of these folks are probably taking advantage of the killer lease deal mentioned above. So whittle that number down to perhaps 50 morons a year -- who I would venture to guess might buy a 12 inch horse turd in a bottle to hang around their neck if it said Honda on it.
stupid
moron
and it looks like you are one of those superficial pricks who drive a Porsche because it says Porsche on it.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but one day your demeanor will bite you in the ass.



