Do i have to downshift in order?
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Originally Posted by rockville,Dec 15 2008, 07:10 PM
I've had several high mileage cars that needed a double clutching to down shift due to the weak synchros. After that it largely became habit.
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Originally Posted by Mindcore,Dec 16 2008, 11:09 AM
After reading this, I'm starting to wonder if people know what double clutching even is.
This comes up once in a while, I talked with one of my best friends, who happens to be one of the best transmission specialists in Canada..
Any harm in skip shifting? none what-so-ever he says.. aside from the earlier comments of the increased potential of an over rev.
Now, the only way for us to blip our throttle is clutch in-neutral-clutch out-blip-clutch in-downshift-clutch out. ???? HUH?
Lets see, 5th gear, coming up to a stop, clutch in, move the stick to 3rd, rev the engine to match release clutch, done.. rev matched, perfectly smooth shift, and a whole crap faster then hitting the clutch a bunch of times, and messing around with neutral.
I'm not a kid ( I'm not old ) but I remember when my first car had to be double clutched to do anything, my Dad barely remembers a day this wasn't a nessecity. But for you, me, and any car resembling an S2000, or any modern car, you're wasting your time so you can brag that you have some skill that hasn't been required since 1970
This comes up once in a while, I talked with one of my best friends, who happens to be one of the best transmission specialists in Canada..
Any harm in skip shifting? none what-so-ever he says.. aside from the earlier comments of the increased potential of an over rev.
Now, the only way for us to blip our throttle is clutch in-neutral-clutch out-blip-clutch in-downshift-clutch out. ???? HUH?
Lets see, 5th gear, coming up to a stop, clutch in, move the stick to 3rd, rev the engine to match release clutch, done.. rev matched, perfectly smooth shift, and a whole crap faster then hitting the clutch a bunch of times, and messing around with neutral.
I'm not a kid ( I'm not old ) but I remember when my first car had to be double clutched to do anything, my Dad barely remembers a day this wasn't a nessecity. But for you, me, and any car resembling an S2000, or any modern car, you're wasting your time so you can brag that you have some skill that hasn't been required since 1970
trdquicksilverstreetracer dude thinks double clutching is like extra special v. simply rev matching. my point is that it's superfluous. it's an extra clutch push that's simply not necessary and wastes time/effort. then he brings up something totally right field only to spew out more misinformation about nissan's new rev matching system
internet dorksyou don't NEED TO DOUBLE CLUTCH on your S2000 or any other non-pos car. just rev match on the up and down shift dude. u don't have to go thru all the gears going from 6th at hwy speeds to 3rd as you approach an on ramp for instance... if you want to do it sure but don't tell others it's somehow better for your car because you're doing the extra clutch pedal push.
just imagine the guy who is going thru all the gears in the above scenario double clutchin' it thru every downshifted gear. LOLOLOLOL have fun bud
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Originally Posted by Mindcore,Dec 16 2008, 11:09 AM
After reading this, I'm starting to wonder if people know what double clutching even is.
I'm not sure where the definition got confused but all I can say is damn.
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Originally Posted by Mindcore,Dec 16 2008, 01:09 PM
Lets see, 5th gear, coming up to a stop, clutch in, move the stick to 3rd, rev the engine to match release clutch, done.. rev matched, perfectly smooth shift, and a whole crap faster then hitting the clutch a bunch of times, and messing around with neutral.
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Why go to lower gears when coming to a stop? best reason I can think of is if you need to get on the gas then you're in gear, no ****ing around.
Say a kid jumps out, and you need to avoid him, your a lot better off with power then crusing in neutral.
but since I said all the above I might as well be a little bit of a hypocrite, when I'm coming to a stop sign, I just leave it in the highest gear possible and let it rev down, if it gets too low, I drop a couple. You don't use gas if your wheels are rotating the engine, and I get an extra 70-100km a tank doing this in my daily driving, and as I said..if I need to accelerate, I'm already in gear.
by the time my car wears out from engine braking I'll just buy one of those new fangled flying cars.
Say a kid jumps out, and you need to avoid him, your a lot better off with power then crusing in neutral.
but since I said all the above I might as well be a little bit of a hypocrite, when I'm coming to a stop sign, I just leave it in the highest gear possible and let it rev down, if it gets too low, I drop a couple. You don't use gas if your wheels are rotating the engine, and I get an extra 70-100km a tank doing this in my daily driving, and as I said..if I need to accelerate, I'm already in gear.
by the time my car wears out from engine braking I'll just buy one of those new fangled flying cars.
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From: Land of Cincinnati Chili
Originally Posted by WRS2K,Dec 17 2008, 10:07 AM
admittedly when coming to a stop i just coast via neutral
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Originally Posted by Mindcore,Dec 16 2008, 11:09 AM
After reading this, I'm starting to wonder if people know what double clutching even is.
This comes up once in a while, I talked with one of my best friends, who happens to be one of the best transmission specialists in Canada..
Any harm in skip shifting? none what-so-ever he says.. aside from the earlier comments of the increased potential of an over rev.
Now, the only way for us to blip our throttle is clutch in-neutral-clutch out-blip-clutch in-downshift-clutch out. ???? HUH?
Lets see, 5th gear, coming up to a stop, clutch in, move the stick to 3rd, rev the engine to match release clutch, done.. rev matched, perfectly smooth shift, and a whole crap faster then hitting the clutch a bunch of times, and messing around with neutral.
I'm not a kid ( I'm not old ) but I remember when my first car had to be double clutched to do anything, my Dad barely remembers a day this wasn't a nessecity. But for you, me, and any car resembling an S2000, or any modern car, you're wasting your time so you can brag that you have some skill that hasn't been required since 1970
This comes up once in a while, I talked with one of my best friends, who happens to be one of the best transmission specialists in Canada..
Any harm in skip shifting? none what-so-ever he says.. aside from the earlier comments of the increased potential of an over rev.
Now, the only way for us to blip our throttle is clutch in-neutral-clutch out-blip-clutch in-downshift-clutch out. ???? HUH?
Lets see, 5th gear, coming up to a stop, clutch in, move the stick to 3rd, rev the engine to match release clutch, done.. rev matched, perfectly smooth shift, and a whole crap faster then hitting the clutch a bunch of times, and messing around with neutral.
I'm not a kid ( I'm not old ) but I remember when my first car had to be double clutched to do anything, my Dad barely remembers a day this wasn't a nessecity. But for you, me, and any car resembling an S2000, or any modern car, you're wasting your time so you can brag that you have some skill that hasn't been required since 1970
the whole point of d/c for me has been to prevent mis-shifting into the wrong gear because it allows the shifter to rest in its natural position before downshifting into a lower gear.
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