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HP -> Acceleration... not Torque!

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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wc_one
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Because it's torque at the wheels that matters.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wc_one
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Zoran

Wheel torque is much more related to engine horsepower than it is related to engine torque.
Not if your gearing is static.



I feel like we're driving in circles.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by Zoran

You are accelerating slower because your HP/speed ratio is lower. Nothing more.
HP = speed * torque
HP/speed = torque

Torque isn't a bad word. You can say it.



Same thing. It is much harder to accelerate at 30mph than it is to accelerate at 10mph.
It's actually much easier because your engine is making more torque. Unless you're not talking about an S2000 engine in which case nevermind.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Destiny2002
wc_one, I would like you to solve the problem instead of going in circles...
I don't work for free.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by wc_one
It's actually much easier because your engine is making more torque.
Actually, the slower you are moving the more torque you can have at the wheels because you can use a lower gear. Try gearing a car for max acceleration at 10mph and at 30mph and see what happens.

Everyone else seems to be on the same page except for you. Since torque and HP are related you're always going to be able to turn an equation with HP into one with torque. But to do that you're separating torque and rpm. Values for torque at the engine are meaning less without rpms.

Zoran said that wheel torque is much more related to HP than torque and you said not if gearing is static. Not true, try to tell me how much torque the engine is producing if you are producing say 5000lb-ft at 500 wheel rpms. Whether the gearing is static or not I can tell you the HP at the engine. You can't calculate torque at the engine without knowing the exact gearing. Point is you can't seperate torque and rpm when you have a transmission. The only time torque values at the engine are meaningful by themselves are if the wheels are directly connected to the crankshaft.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by wc_one


Not if your gearing is static.

Last time I checked, one-gear automobiles were extremely hard to find.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by KnightRider


Point is you can't seperate torque and rpm when you have a transmission.
Excellent point!
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