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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy
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I wouldn't ever make a purchase like that without consulting my wife. Not because my wife would freak out or anything, but because it sends the wrong message.

That said, nice car.
What message is that? That you wear the pants in the family?

Haha. No, it says, "your opinion and input is secondary to my own desires" or that ,"it's my money so I can do what I want with it, thanks for being a spectator to my life choices and a warm place for me to put my ding dong a few times a week." :-)

Every relationship has its own stride, but my relationship with my wife, by design, is definitely a partnership. And my opinion on this has nothing to do with how much we earn, and I should also point out that I am definitely in the camp of people who speaks of our household income as "our money." There's none of that, "You just stay at home and I actually earn a living," bullshit in my marriage. My wife earned a very good living but we chose to have her do something more important than practice law; raise our daughter. I'm not about to punish her for a choice we made together, nor am I willing to marginalize her by sending signals that my opinion is more important than hers.

I get it, there are engrained gender roles that create very real and, in my opinion, acceptable double standards, so I don't want to give the impression that I'm advocating some women's lib, we're all equal agenda here. Clearly that's not the case. It's just that I don't think that taking a paternalistic approach to marriage is helpful for the marriage. It's plenty helpful at making guys feel like a big shot and showing your buddies what a big swinging dick you have, but I didn't get married to have a readymade contestant for all matters of debate or a platform to make me feel like I'm a big deal. I got married to have a partnership with someone whom I consider to be my equal. Once I found such a woman, I yanked that shit off the market quick, fast, and in a hurry.

But if the Russians invade tomorrow or something like that, sure, I'll be all like, "Woman, make me some stew before I go crush some skulls." It's about finding the right balance.


Also, I am in no way insinuating that Joey Balls is engaging in any of the negative stuff I described above. I wouldn't do what he's doing regarding the car, but I don't want my above soapbox speech to be misinterpreted as an accusation against him.
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It was a joke (obviously) - you ruined it with this massive reply.

I'd never buy a car that expensive without discussing it with my wife first (in general, if not specifically) to make sure we're on the same page. I usually start 12-24 months before I actually purchase so that she has lots of time to warm up to the idea.
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I wasn't suggesting that YOU were being serious, brainiac.
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I know. But you quoted me, which ruined my comment.

Just stop, okay! Sheesh!
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Meh.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy
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I'd never buy a car that expensive without discussing it with my wife first (in general, if not specifically) to make sure we're on the same page. I usually start 12-24 months before I actually purchase so that she has lots of time to warm up to the idea.
Well then, you have plenty of time to warm her up to the idea of the all new 2017 NSX!
Ha - that will be the day. I'd have to be making serious coin ($1M+ a year) to spend $150K on a car. Just not worth it, otherwise.

I'll gladly settle for a 997 GT3, 991S or C7 Z51.
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I can't tell you how many people I know who match their car's MSRP to their anual salary, plus or minus 10%. Frightening.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.
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I'd never buy a car that expensive without discussing it with my wife first (in general, if not specifically) to make sure we're on the same page. I usually start 12-24 months before I actually purchase so that she has lots of time to warm up to the idea.
Well then, you have plenty of time to warm her up to the idea of the all new 2017 NSX!
Ha - that will be the day. I'd have to be making serious coin ($1M+ a year) to spend $150K on a car. Just not worth it, otherwise.

I'll gladly settle for a 997 GT3, 991S or C7 Z51.
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I can't tell you how many people I know who match their car's MSRP to their anual salary, plus or minus 10%. Frightening.
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The thing your are both forgetting is that a cars MSRP is only part of the equation. Think about ultra limited edition supercars. They cost ridiculous amounts of money, but they depreciate slower or not at all compared to your typical car. So sometimes spending more on something that will retain its value makes more sense than spending less on something that will drop like a rock in value.

What I say is, buy something you like, that's somewhat unique, and you will be rewarded with less depreciation. This works better for used cars than new cars, almost all new cars depreciate.

Also. JonBoy missed my dig about the NSX not coming out for another 1-2 years. I guess I should have said 2020 NSX!
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Marioshi
Also. JonBoy missed my dig about the NSX not coming out for another 1-2 years. I guess I should have said 2020 NSX!
I chose to ignore it because I know you didn't really mean it.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.
I can't tell you how many people I know who match their car's MSRP to their anual salary, plus or minus 10%. Frightening.
Seems reasonable.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Marioshi
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I'd never buy a car that expensive without discussing it with my wife first (in general, if not specifically) to make sure we're on the same page. I usually start 12-24 months before I actually purchase so that she has lots of time to warm up to the idea.
Well then, you have plenty of time to warm her up to the idea of the all new 2027 NSX!

FTFY
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.
I can't tell you how many people I know who match their car's MSRP to their anual salary, plus or minus 10%. Frightening.
That's cool that you go through life upset at other people's fiscal choices.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by d1rtyc4r
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I can't tell you how many people I know who match their car's MSRP to their anual salary, plus or minus 10%. Frightening.
That's cool that you go through life upset at other people's fiscal choices.
Hey - he didn't say he was upset. He said it was frightening. You're trolling (badly).
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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I hvae not read this whole thing, it just goes on and on. My opinion, when I was married, and that was for a long time, my car choices were approved by the wife. she got what she wanted and so did i. There was compromise, in that with kids i chose to have an automatic 4 door and a 6mt sports car, the sports car was not an expensive one, but the 4 door was a very nice one. This went on for over 20 years. Now that I am on my own I still have a really nice 4 door and the S2000. AND NO AUTOMATICS. I will get a slushbox when I am older, no matter how good they are now!

And on another note, what is 80% an M3? my 2013 estoril blue 6mt 335i m sport. And it's about 80% the cost I am guessing as well. Its a fun car with all the bells and whistles and 0-60 is 4.8 seconds which is not far off the M3. Now is it as much fun, no. But it is close and with the extra 20k or so I can do other things. I bought my Honda new. OH and it has a few M bages and stuff so that it passes the test of being almost a M car.

Best of luck. Enjoy whatever you get.

PS, I have found that this bmw is complex, with allot of electrical gremlens. If you want that kinda car then by all means get one, but expect that when you push a button it will not always work and the gas pedal with be weird at times...better to get an automatic, I think they are built to that standard now.
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Old Nov 12, 2014 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hirev
I hvae not read this whole thing, it just goes on and on. My opinion, when I was married, and that was for a long time, my car choices were approved by the wife. she got what she wanted and so did i. There was compromise, in that with kids i chose to have an automatic 4 door and a 6mt sports car, the sports car was not an expensive one, but the 4 door was a very nice one. This went on for over 20 years. Now that I am on my own I still have a really nice 4 door and the S2000. AND NO AUTOMATICS. I will get a slushbox when I am older, no matter how good they are now!

And on another note, what is 80% an M3? my 2013 estoril blue 6mt 335i m sport. And it's about 80% the cost I am guessing as well. Its a fun car with all the bells and whistles and 0-60 is 4.8 seconds which is not far off the M3. Now is it as much fun, no. But it is close and with the extra 20k or so I can do other things. I bought my Honda new. OH and it has a few M bages and stuff so that it passes the test of being almost a M car.

Best of luck. Enjoy whatever you get.

PS, I have found that this bmw is complex, with allot of electrical gremlens. If you want that kinda car then by all means get one, but expect that when you push a button it will not always work and the gas pedal with be weird at times...better to get an automatic, I think they are built to that standard now.
It will be a second car and under warranty for a while, so if anything happens ill just drop it off at the dealer. PITA? yes but whatever. Also, you can shove as many M badges as you want on a 335, it isnt an M, lol. My S2000 was really fast, faster than a Porsche 918, but still wasnt a Porsche 918 (or 981, whatever its called).

Of course the gap is much smaller between the modded 335 and an M but It would bother me. Id rather just by the real thing.
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