S2000. Is it fast? Serious question here.
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It has been said and done, you are trying to give your input and opinion which is all well and good but until YOU drive the car then there is very little that you can do or say that makes any sense. The reason for that are simple. You haven't driven the car so how can you make comparisons or even suggest which is the better car? Sorry no offense but until you do your opinion is not worth a single cent to any of us.
I have driven the M Roadster on the starights and the twisties of Scotland and can tell you that it is a very good car, not the best but good. It is great on the straights and acceptable on the bends but there is too much body flex and the suspension is not uo to the task of a sports car. The engine however is a different story altoghether. It is smooth and powerful. The M3 on the other hand is totally differnt again and an awesome car for sure. When I was driving this on the track compared to the S I was always beating my lap times when compared to the latter. It is one hell of a car and has four seats for friends and family. Two different types of car for different people. I love the S and this is what I am driving, my next car could be different, who knows, I need to wait and see.
I would like to make my own car with the engine of the M roadster, gearbox of the Honda S and the suspension from the Boxster S. The exhaust note from a Ferrari or an Alfa Romeo. Perfect! Now where did I leave my cheque book.......
It has been said and done, you are trying to give your input and opinion which is all well and good but until YOU drive the car then there is very little that you can do or say that makes any sense. The reason for that are simple. You haven't driven the car so how can you make comparisons or even suggest which is the better car? Sorry no offense but until you do your opinion is not worth a single cent to any of us.
I have driven the M Roadster on the starights and the twisties of Scotland and can tell you that it is a very good car, not the best but good. It is great on the straights and acceptable on the bends but there is too much body flex and the suspension is not uo to the task of a sports car. The engine however is a different story altoghether. It is smooth and powerful. The M3 on the other hand is totally differnt again and an awesome car for sure. When I was driving this on the track compared to the S I was always beating my lap times when compared to the latter. It is one hell of a car and has four seats for friends and family. Two different types of car for different people. I love the S and this is what I am driving, my next car could be different, who knows, I need to wait and see.
I would like to make my own car with the engine of the M roadster, gearbox of the Honda S and the suspension from the Boxster S. The exhaust note from a Ferrari or an Alfa Romeo. Perfect! Now where did I leave my cheque book.......
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This comment isn't my attempt to make a general assumption of any kind or to state a general rule of thumb. People don't realize that when cars are for example at the 13.8 to 14.5 second range on the quarter mile, anything can happen because the drivers determine the outcome.
To put it into very crude terms when 2 cars are not identical or similar in performance, more often than not, that machines matter more in races in the straights and that it's the driver that'll determine who wins in the corners.
A heavily modded blown-Viper with a 150shot of nitrous driven by an average driver (aided by a few experienced tips on how to drive it fast and when to hit the button) will outdo a Civic with a BAnything swap with a turbo and nitrous from a very experienced driver on the open road. Involve corners of varying pitches, cambers and such and the performance gap shortens.
Don't get me wrong, there is quite a bit of skill and reflexes involved in launching a car right and shifting on cue without a miss, but once the car gets going the engine will be left to do the rest.
In the corners, assuming 2 identical cars, it's common knowledge that if car A exits a corner at X mph and car B exists a corner with X + 2 mph, then car B will be faster on the entire stretch of road (every single foot of the stretch) and will appear to be pulling on car A like it's slightly underpowered or something. That kind of driving takes extensive knowledge of not only the car, but timing of power-on during the apex, line to take for the best entry and exit speeds, the limitation of the tires and where to keep the engine in the powerband, etc.
If you want the fastest car on the open road, then get the one that'll be the one to get yourself and possibly another person killed quickly so nobody suffers. If you want to learn how to drive fast, then join some autocrossing events or your local track days and sign up for some instruction.
The reality is that most people don't know how to drive their cars at or near the limit in all given conditions, to include myself. I drive well for normal street driving but that didn't prepare me for driving to the limits at speeds below 45mph during Solo 2, and I've never raced on an open track like Solo 1 before because there isn't a safe one here to go all out. I've never fathomed losing 4 wheel traction at 25mph on dry pavement until it happened so there's quite a bit more learning that I still have to do.
I've owned my car since this past March and I still believe that I'm only using about 1/3rd of the car's total potential in stock form. Be safe and stay alive long enough to enjoy more races and help keep others alive so they can do the same.
My 2 cents.
To put it into very crude terms when 2 cars are not identical or similar in performance, more often than not, that machines matter more in races in the straights and that it's the driver that'll determine who wins in the corners.
A heavily modded blown-Viper with a 150shot of nitrous driven by an average driver (aided by a few experienced tips on how to drive it fast and when to hit the button) will outdo a Civic with a BAnything swap with a turbo and nitrous from a very experienced driver on the open road. Involve corners of varying pitches, cambers and such and the performance gap shortens.
Don't get me wrong, there is quite a bit of skill and reflexes involved in launching a car right and shifting on cue without a miss, but once the car gets going the engine will be left to do the rest.
In the corners, assuming 2 identical cars, it's common knowledge that if car A exits a corner at X mph and car B exists a corner with X + 2 mph, then car B will be faster on the entire stretch of road (every single foot of the stretch) and will appear to be pulling on car A like it's slightly underpowered or something. That kind of driving takes extensive knowledge of not only the car, but timing of power-on during the apex, line to take for the best entry and exit speeds, the limitation of the tires and where to keep the engine in the powerband, etc.
If you want the fastest car on the open road, then get the one that'll be the one to get yourself and possibly another person killed quickly so nobody suffers. If you want to learn how to drive fast, then join some autocrossing events or your local track days and sign up for some instruction.
The reality is that most people don't know how to drive their cars at or near the limit in all given conditions, to include myself. I drive well for normal street driving but that didn't prepare me for driving to the limits at speeds below 45mph during Solo 2, and I've never raced on an open track like Solo 1 before because there isn't a safe one here to go all out. I've never fathomed losing 4 wheel traction at 25mph on dry pavement until it happened so there's quite a bit more learning that I still have to do.
I've owned my car since this past March and I still believe that I'm only using about 1/3rd of the car's total potential in stock form. Be safe and stay alive long enough to enjoy more races and help keep others alive so they can do the same.
My 2 cents.
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BTW, a Jetta with just a chip and exhaust, or an RSX Type-S with a Hondata ECU and CAI will run neck-n-neck with a stock S2000.
But who cares? Comparing a modded car to a stock S2000 is gay, but comparing two modded FWD chick cars to a stock S2000 is even gayer.
But who cares? Comparing a modded car to a stock S2000 is gay, but comparing two modded FWD chick cars to a stock S2000 is even gayer.
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From: san leandro
Wow the ignorance is abound. The S2000 is closer to an economy car than a sportscar? LOL yea right. The S2000 was the first and still to this point the only *TRUE* sportscar that has been *INTRODUCED* from Japan since the FD went out of production in America.
Economy car? Yea right. The s2000 is a very high quality , lightweight fun to drive SPORTSCAR.
Economy car? Yea right. The s2000 is a very high quality , lightweight fun to drive SPORTSCAR.
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From: tamworth, polesworth
this thread is full of crap!!! the S2000 is a FAST car!! 0-60 in 5.5 and top speed of 150+ that is fast by any ones standard. There are faster cars but there are many more slower cars. Also the car isnt ment for drag racing or even track days, i believe it is meant for taking it along those country lanes with the top down V-tecing all the way.
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From: Houston
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EvoVII
[B]Uhh, in regards to the first post, he is probaby right if the jetta had a few mods, and the Type S rus around 6.8 0-60 mph, so I could see with a couple mods, it would beat an S2k.... If they were all stock, the S2k would undoubtedly win, but a WRX may be another story... In all honesty,
[B]Uhh, in regards to the first post, he is probaby right if the jetta had a few mods, and the Type S rus around 6.8 0-60 mph, so I could see with a couple mods, it would beat an S2k.... If they were all stock, the S2k would undoubtedly win, but a WRX may be another story... In all honesty,
