Should I pull the trigger
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Originally Posted by XIEmperorIX,Oct 7 2008, 12:30 PM
haha threads like this make me reconsider if i want an Si or an S2k since the performance is so close
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yeah that's def. true...i just hear so many comparison of how close the Si is to the s2000 so it kinda makes me 
..i might be pulling the trigger on a 02 s2k tomorrow (trading in my 07 tC..bored with it..) so we'll see how that goes..
..i might be pulling the trigger on a 02 s2k tomorrow (trading in my 07 tC..bored with it..) so we'll see how that goes..
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Originally Posted by lukemc01,Oct 7 2008, 12:06 PM
I have both and I would say the Si is about 8/10s in motor and 9/10 suspension (I have the twitchy AP1). the difference in weight for both cars is about 150lbs dry.
In motor terms, the S2000 F20C is built with more care and fancier parts. It sounds incredible and is a real gem. The K20Z3 in the Si has similar traits but a little more muted - 197HP/139TQ vs 240HP/156TQ. But what is nice is that you get about 80% of that torque from 2000 rpm and above, which is nice for commuting.
In suspension terms, both cars have limits above my driving abilities. You feel more from the S2000 but at the edge of it's limits it can get a little nervous (I never drove the AP2). The Si rolls more initially but if you have confidence in it will continue to stick past what you though were it;s limits. The nose will push eventually but you can still rotate the car pretty easily, especially for a FWD car.
I did try out a Mini Cooper S and MazdaSpeed 3 before getting my Si sedan. The Cooper's stick was a little too rubbery and the MS3 had the worst clutch of all the cars I tested. Plus I've never had issues with the Hondas that I have owned.
Plus it allowed me to get the Yin/Yang Black/Silver thing going on my cars...
In motor terms, the S2000 F20C is built with more care and fancier parts. It sounds incredible and is a real gem. The K20Z3 in the Si has similar traits but a little more muted - 197HP/139TQ vs 240HP/156TQ. But what is nice is that you get about 80% of that torque from 2000 rpm and above, which is nice for commuting.
In suspension terms, both cars have limits above my driving abilities. You feel more from the S2000 but at the edge of it's limits it can get a little nervous (I never drove the AP2). The Si rolls more initially but if you have confidence in it will continue to stick past what you though were it;s limits. The nose will push eventually but you can still rotate the car pretty easily, especially for a FWD car.
I did try out a Mini Cooper S and MazdaSpeed 3 before getting my Si sedan. The Cooper's stick was a little too rubbery and the MS3 had the worst clutch of all the cars I tested. Plus I've never had issues with the Hondas that I have owned.
Plus it allowed me to get the Yin/Yang Black/Silver thing going on my cars...
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Originally Posted by GPMike,Oct 7 2008, 10:06 AM
Next time you are in the Si and you are in the Apex of a turn slam on the gas and watch the LSD do magic. So much fun.
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I own an 07 Si coupe, but am most likely going to trade for an '03 S2000 (Test drive tomorrow!! We'll see how I feel afterwards). I would strongly suggest the Si - That's a great price assuming it's in decent condition. I think the RX-8 gets around 17 MPG with average driving (not too conservative), but I think that Honda reliability will outstand that of the RX-8. The '07 is still new, but Consumer Reports magazine has just about all catagories titiled "Best" (out of best - worst) for the Si as a used car. I havn't had one problem, but I have very low mileage, so it's sort of given (8.5K). It's a pretty fun car, and I hope I'll be impressed with the S2000 tomorrow. Just make sure that the gearing on the Si isn't notchy at all before you buy it. Apparently there's been a large issue about some of the gears (usually 3rd) grinding or popping out of gear; There's a TSB out for it, but a lot of online posts on 8thcivic.com say that they've had a really hard time to get it covered under warranty. Other than that man, I hope you enjoy what you get. The Si is a pretty rewarding car though, but I just want the S2000. Let us know what you get and what you think of it in the future dude.
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Originally Posted by lukemc01,Oct 7 2008, 01:18 PM
Gotta replace the A/S Michelins before I get too aggressive with my Si. Bleh. I think a set of Bridgestone RE760s at bonus time will help.
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Yeah, I probably won't be replacing them with the same tires. They are great tires, but I don't need anything that sporty for a daily driver. They're also pretty expensive. We get occasional ice and snow in the winter so I'll probably go with a sporty all-season whenever they wear out. I drive mostly highway so mine are still in great condition after 7,000 miles. Cloverleafs and exit ramps are still a lot of fun with the michelins. 
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Two days in this car and I'm in love. It's been so long since I've had a car that handles, I probably wouldn't have been able to control myself if I'd gone ahead and bought an S2000. My face hurts from grinning so much. I'm even smiling at the gas pump. I have not been easy on this car, and my first tank showed 30.5 mpg! I've gone from $75 fill ups after less than 300 miles to $40 fill ups at nearly 350 miles. This thing is going to pay for itself.
