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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Has Honda ever made a street engine with more than 300ft/lbs of torque? I think their current record "torque monster" is the 3.7L V6 in the Acura TL/MDX.

I think every other major auto manufacturer on the planet has produced at least one engine with more than 300ft/lbs of torque.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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GM and Ford make cars and trucks with lots of torque....look where that got them.

Porsche doesn't exactly serve up the torque that much either in comparison to their horsepower....doesn't seem to hurt them none.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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It seems that Honda engineers all parts to have no more and no less strength than required for expected normal operation. The amount of output seems the same, no more or less than exactly what is needed for expected use.

Any increase in the range of torque would require numerous stronger parts... and would preclude many standardized parts and suppliers.

I would guess they simply don't see the need in their vision of 'normal operation'. When the marketplace demands otherwise you can expect they will be slow to change their viewpoint.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GPMike' date='Jan 4 2009, 02:23 PM
GM and Ford make cars and trucks with lots of torque....look where that got them.

Porsche doesn't exactly serve up the torque that much either in comparison to their horsepower....doesn't seem to hurt them none.


They mainly have fuel efficient cars. its kinda hard to have a fuel efficient car with a lot of torque.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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Torque comes either two ways, forced induction or larger displacement motors. Both options equal poorer fuel economy.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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Look at Honda's roots for the answer: motorcycles and small cars...small engines, that's what they do best
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Yeah, it does seem to be the Honda philosophy, sort of Lotus-like but for engines.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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Honda's not interested in torque, its interested in economy.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT' date='Jan 4 2009, 02:57 PM
Honda's not interested in torque, its interested in economy.
If that's the case, then why does the Pilot/Ridgeline/MDX get such crappy real-world mileage? Small engines have to work harder to move larger masses.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by QUIKAG' date='Jan 4 2009, 06:18 PM
If that's the case, then why does the Pilot/Ridgeline/MDX get such crappy real-world mileage? Small engines have to work harder to move larger masses.
All SUVs get shit for mileage if I am not mistaken. They are pigs. SUVs are nothing more than pigs that should be banned for use unless you own a farm, ranch or work in construction.
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