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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JLB,Aug 13 2005, 04:41 PM
Better call Edmunds and tell them that they are wrong.
Or simply note the true value of such publications, along with the frequency of their technical errors, and move on.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by watermelonman,Aug 13 2005, 07:55 PM

No, you're spewing drivel and trolling. It appears that everyone else involved sees right through you too.
I'm backing up everything I say, unlike you.

It depends on what you consider to be of value. I just added a nice fact, the number of Mazda F1 wins. It appears that you do not consider it to be of value because it does not support your Mazda-stroking bogosity.

Kind of hard to win when they ban your motor because it's too good.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by watermelonman,Aug 13 2005, 08:02 PM
Or simply note the true value of such publications, along with the frequency of their technical errors, and move on.
Or admit you are wrong, and then move on.


Ward's 10 Best Engines

Ward's AutoWorld magazine selects ten "best" engines annually. The selection takes into account power and torque output, noise vibration and harshness (NVH) levels, technical relevance and basic comparative numbers.


2005
Audi 4.2 L V8 DOHC
Audi 3.2 L V6 DOHC FSI
Mercedes-Benz 3.2 L I6 DOHC CDI Turbodiesel
Chrysler 5.7 L V8 Hemi
Ford 4.6 L V8 Modular SOHC
General Motors 4.2 L I6 Atlas LL8
Honda 3.5 L V6 J35
Honda 3.0 L V6 J30 IMA Hybrid
Mazda 1.3 L Wankel engine RENESIS
Nissan 3.5 L V6 VQ35DE
See: [1] (http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_muscle_...ways/index.htm)


2004
Audi 4.2 L V8 DOHC
BMW 3.2 L I6 S54
Chrysler 5.7 L V8 Hemi
DaimlerChrysler 5.9 L I6 Cummins turbodiesel
General Motors 4.2 L I6 Atlas LL8
Honda 3.0 L V6 J30
Mazda 1.3 L Wankel engine RENESIS
Nissan 3.5 L V6 VQ35DE

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessi...0Best%20Engines
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JLB,Aug 13 2005, 06:49 PM
I'm backing up everything I say, unlike you.
This is an outright and utter lie. In fact, I have far more backing my points than you do. It's not my fault if you like ignore and gloss over the things that you have no answer for.

[QUOTE]Kind of hard to win when they ban your motor because it's too good.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JLB,Aug 13 2005, 06:57 PM
Or admit you are wrong, and then move on.

Ward's 10 Best Engines

Ward's AutoWorld magazine selects ten "best" engines annually. The selection takes into account power and torque output, noise vibration and harshness (NVH) levels, technical relevance and basic comparative numbers.
Once again you can't keep your arguments straight. My claim has absolutely nothing to do with what engines Wards rates highly. Why is it so hard for you to keep track of what we're talking about? Is your capacity really that limited or are you just trying to change the topic into something you can actually defend?
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by watermelonman,Aug 13 2005, 11:57 PM

This is an outright and utter lie. In fact, I have far more backing my points than you do. It's not my fault if you like ignore and gloss over the things that you have no answer for.
Like race results, dyno sheets, vehicle specs....................oh wait, you have none of that.


Again, you are quite simply wrong.

It's not hard to compete after your engine is banned. Go back and make one that conforms to the rules. It's not like there's special rules that only apply to Mazda. No one else seems to have a hard time working within the rules.
Reallly? Tell me how many manufacturers run F-1?

You didn't even know that rotaries were banned, so were crowing about them not winning.


Mazda was banned because they were superior to everyone.

Honda got in after the ban, and their design was after the rule change.

If Mazda were allowed to run their engine, Honda would be squashed like a bug.

Has Honda won LeMans yet?

Come talk when they do.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Once again you can't keep your arguments straight. My claim has absolutely nothing to do with what engines Wards rates highly. Why is it so hard for you to keep track of what we're talking about? Is your capacity really that limited or are you just trying to change the topic into something you can actually defend?
You wrote:

Oh, and the power efficiency claims of the RX8 engine is the biggest load of crap I've seen on the internet in weeks.
Wards wrote:

Ward's AutoWorld magazine selects ten "best" engines annually. The selection takes into account power and torque output, noise vibration and harshness (NVH) levels, technical relevance and basic comparative numbers.


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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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[QUOTE=JLB,Aug 13 2005, 09:40 PM]Like race results, dyno sheets, vehicle specs....................oh wait, you have none of that.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JLB,Aug 13 2005, 09:47 PM
You wrote:



Wards wrote:





Wards says they take efficiency into account. That doesn't mean the RX8 engine has the greatest efficiency.

Nice try though.

Besides, the full explanation was contained in the very message of mine that you are quoting. Your trolling technique is so rudimentary that you're not even worthy of the responses you have already received.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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Heh heh heh.... Hey JLB, I'm not one to normally cite random websites or quote magazines, but I thougt this was rather ironic. I just wanted to let you know, I pulled this interesting tidbit from a link YOU provided for us (if it is credible enough of a site for YOU to use, it MUST be credible enough for me to use too...):



I'm not going to argue who's better or not, but I just wanted to point out:

(1) Lots of things can be "proven" over the internet
(2) I'm not the ONLY one who thinks that the RX-8 rotary engine counts as a 2.6L



This is not a Honda v. Mazda thread, nor is it an S2000 v. RX-8 thread. Please stop hijacking it for your own motives.
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