Average Speed Cameras?
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I rarely see those but I don't drive a BMW 
I meant specifically "obstruction" in the ASC zones. The M25 zones are so busy that moving over for someone is pointless, the speeder will only make up one car gap before they are "obstructed" again.
In fact, getting anywhere near 50mph in the ASC zones near me would be an achievement in itself.
As pointed out above, any time savings gained from speeding are pretty insignificant anyway as the zones are rarely longer than a few miles.
I meant specifically "obstruction" in the ASC zones. The M25 zones are so busy that moving over for someone is pointless, the speeder will only make up one car gap before they are "obstructed" again.
In fact, getting anywhere near 50mph in the ASC zones near me would be an achievement in itself.
As pointed out above, any time savings gained from speeding are pretty insignificant anyway as the zones are rarely longer than a few miles.
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Originally Posted by lovegroova,May 18 2010, 12:15 PM
I meant specifically "obstruction" in the ASC zones. The M25 zones are so busy that moving over for someone is pointless, the speeder will only make up one car gap before they are "obstructed" again.
As pointed out above, any time savings gained from speeding are pretty insignificant anyway as the zones are rarely longer than a few miles.
that's accepted but doesn't answer the question about obstructiveness
1m 30s could be a very long time in some circumstances
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,May 18 2010, 01:22 PM
try the M4
that's accepted but doesn't answer the question about obstructiveness
1m 30s could be a very long time in some circumstances
that's accepted but doesn't answer the question about obstructiveness
1m 30s could be a very long time in some circumstances
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,May 18 2010, 12:22 PM
1m 30s could be a very long time in some circumstances
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Originally Posted by lovegroova,May 18 2010, 12:49 PM
Not sure what, other than a medical emergency.
Besides, any gains of that significance can be lost at traffic lights/roundabouts or other junctions once off the motorway - it's all pretty random and out of a driver's control really.
Besides, any gains of that significance can be lost at traffic lights/roundabouts or other junctions once off the motorway - it's all pretty random and out of a driver's control really.
Before we even begin to look at others, such as matters of security
If that were the case then maybe we could all ignore blues and twos behind us?
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Originally Posted by lovegroova,May 18 2010, 01:24 PM
Since when have blues and twos been subject to traffic lights and so on? In fact, that only serves to reinforce my argument.
and not everyone involved in an emergency has the benefits of blues and twos
I thought you were saying that progress is largely out of the hands of drivers because of various restrictions
surely you are not?
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Originally Posted by gaddafi,May 18 2010, 01:54 PM
and not everyone involved in an emergency has the benefits of blues and twos
Ambulances, Paramedics, even Basics docs do, emergency blood or organ transport vehicles do.
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I can't actually think of anyone who's involved in an emergency who wouldn't have blues and twos, expect perhaps a community first responder or a surgeon rushing to a hospital, but they're not trained in that sort of driving anyway nor would they be expected to respond at speed.