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From: omnipresent
Originally Posted by 98RON,Mar 25 2009, 07:04 PM
I totally disagree with your first two assertions.
As regards the third; the reality is likely that you talk to SOME of the MINORITY of supercar owners who ARE enthusiasts rather than the usual kudos-seeking majority who aren't (and I know and enjoy the company of quite a few of the latter - each to their own - who'd freely admit the same themselves).
I wouldn't dream of comparing a S2000 to a supercar other than simply maintaining that a well-driven S2 will do pretty well through the twisties against far more expensive sportscars including many supercars. As similarly will a Scooby, a Clio Cup etc. I have myself already owned a number of far more expensive 'premium' badged sportscars than the S and am absolutely NOT on any kind of mission to 'big up' the S2 in a silly disproportionate manner. But do please
on merrily all you like.
No more posts on this from me on this. I've tried to agree with a fellow poster's reasonably enough made point and am now utterly bored with this
nonsense.
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As regards the third; the reality is likely that you talk to SOME of the MINORITY of supercar owners who ARE enthusiasts rather than the usual kudos-seeking majority who aren't (and I know and enjoy the company of quite a few of the latter - each to their own - who'd freely admit the same themselves).
I wouldn't dream of comparing a S2000 to a supercar other than simply maintaining that a well-driven S2 will do pretty well through the twisties against far more expensive sportscars including many supercars. As similarly will a Scooby, a Clio Cup etc. I have myself already owned a number of far more expensive 'premium' badged sportscars than the S and am absolutely NOT on any kind of mission to 'big up' the S2 in a silly disproportionate manner. But do please
on merrily all you like.No more posts on this from me on this. I've tried to agree with a fellow poster's reasonably enough made point and am now utterly bored with this
nonsense.98
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Originally Posted by lovegroova,Mar 25 2009, 07:42 PM
That's because the average S2000 driver is much better than the average Lotus driver 
I'd say the standard of S2000 driving is average at best
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There's no such thing as a "typical" owner of any marque (Aldi's aside )
For example, on a track day with a number of S2000s, one sees a wide range of driving talents, but the majority of us are somewhere around "average", even though attendance on atrack day would indicate a keen driver.
One would expect to see a similar variety of driving talent on a Ferrari organised track day, with the possible exception that those folks have paid for more instruction and would likely be better.
Having driven Harsh's 360 round Donington at nowhere near the limit of its cornering capabilities, I can safely say I was lapping faster in the 360 than I was in my S2000. Cornering speeds were similar but the Fezza was "somewhat" faster on the straights. With a bit of practice and more importantly, my own Ferrari, it would be no contest.
On the majority of roads, where speeds are really dictated by external factors such as visiblilty, kerbs, traffic coming the other way and so on, it might be a bit closer, but the Ferrari would still be a Ferrari, and the S2000 just a mass produced Japanese sportscar.
Equally, the Ferrari would still be impossible to get into 2nd gear and the S2000 would be a bit easier in that regard
) For example, on a track day with a number of S2000s, one sees a wide range of driving talents, but the majority of us are somewhere around "average", even though attendance on atrack day would indicate a keen driver.
One would expect to see a similar variety of driving talent on a Ferrari organised track day, with the possible exception that those folks have paid for more instruction and would likely be better.
Having driven Harsh's 360 round Donington at nowhere near the limit of its cornering capabilities, I can safely say I was lapping faster in the 360 than I was in my S2000. Cornering speeds were similar but the Fezza was "somewhat"
faster on the straights. With a bit of practice and more importantly, my own Ferrari, it would be no contest.On the majority of roads, where speeds are really dictated by external factors such as visiblilty, kerbs, traffic coming the other way and so on, it might be a bit closer, but the Ferrari would still be a Ferrari, and the S2000 just a mass produced Japanese sportscar.
Equally, the Ferrari would still be impossible to get into 2nd gear and the S2000 would be a bit easier in that regard
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Originally Posted by lovegroova,Mar 25 2009, 08:21 PM
There's no such thing as a "typical" owner of any marque (Aldi's aside )
For example, on a track day with a number of S2000s, one sees a wide range of driving talents, but the majority of us are somewhere around "average", even though attendance on atrack day would indicate a keen driver.
One would expect to see a similar variety of driving talent on a Ferrari organised track day, with the possible exception that those folks have paid for more instruction and would likely be better.
Having driven Harsh's 360 round Donington at nowhere near the limit of its cornering capabilities, I can safely say I was lapping faster in the 360 than I was in my S2000. Cornering speeds were similar but the Fezza was "somewhat" faster on the straights. With a bit of practice and more importantly, my own Ferrari, it would be no contest.
On the majority of roads, where speeds are really dictated by external factors such as visiblilty, kerbs, traffic coming the other way and so on, it might be a bit closer, but the Ferrari would still be a Ferrari, and the S2000 just a mass produced Japanese sportscar.
Equally, the Ferrari would still be impossible to get into 2nd gear and the S2000 would be a bit easier in that regard
) For example, on a track day with a number of S2000s, one sees a wide range of driving talents, but the majority of us are somewhere around "average", even though attendance on atrack day would indicate a keen driver.
One would expect to see a similar variety of driving talent on a Ferrari organised track day, with the possible exception that those folks have paid for more instruction and would likely be better.
Having driven Harsh's 360 round Donington at nowhere near the limit of its cornering capabilities, I can safely say I was lapping faster in the 360 than I was in my S2000. Cornering speeds were similar but the Fezza was "somewhat"
faster on the straights. With a bit of practice and more importantly, my own Ferrari, it would be no contest.On the majority of roads, where speeds are really dictated by external factors such as visiblilty, kerbs, traffic coming the other way and so on, it might be a bit closer, but the Ferrari would still be a Ferrari, and the S2000 just a mass produced Japanese sportscar.
Equally, the Ferrari would still be impossible to get into 2nd gear and the S2000 would be a bit easier in that regard
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From: omnipresent
Originally Posted by lovegroova,Mar 25 2009, 08:21 PM
There's no such thing as a "typical" owner of any marque (Aldi's aside )
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