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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:09 AM
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New Joisey to get an F1 race in 2013:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/form...e/15440153.stm

I think this one has a sense of being about as likely as Donington was.
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:19 AM
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And mega dull...another boring street circuit.
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gbduo
And mega dull...another boring street circuit.
The mayor who announced the deal claimed the circuit would be a cross between Monaco and Spa. Interesting ...
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiskine
Originally Posted by gbduo' timestamp='1319624346' post='21101904
And mega dull...another boring street circuit.
The mayor who announced the deal claimed the circuit would be a cross between Monaco and Spa. Interesting ...
Very interesting, would be interesting to see a wide open S bend like Eau Rouge on a tight and twisty circuit like Monaco
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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Yet again Bernie seems to be driven by the money.....F1 has never been huge in the US and I dont suppose this will make it any better. With the US and Middle East and Asia pushing for more and more races it can only have a negative impact on the historic circuits in Europe. There are only so many races you can fit into a season.

Still, maybe it could mean a few visits to some more exotic locations....
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by andy2000
Yet again Bernie seems to be driven by the money.....F1 has never been huge in the US and I dont suppose this will make it any better. With the US and Middle East and Asia pushing for more and more races it can only have a negative impact on the historic circuits in Europe. There are only so many races you can fit into a season.

Still, maybe it could mean a few visits to some more exotic locations....
Unfortunately Bernie's job is to keep F1 alive and if cash is what it takes then that's what he has to do.

Europe is in a right state at the moment so if he only concentrates on the "old" tracks then the sport will die.
I'm sure they will eventually rotate back round again in years to come.
Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by composite guru
Originally Posted by andy2000' timestamp='1319650331' post='21103057
Yet again Bernie seems to be driven by the money.....F1 has never been huge in the US and I dont suppose this will make it any better. With the US and Middle East and Asia pushing for more and more races it can only have a negative impact on the historic circuits in Europe. There are only so many races you can fit into a season.

Still, maybe it could mean a few visits to some more exotic locations....
Unfortunately Bernie's job is to keep F1 alive and if cash is what it takes then that's what he has to do.

Europe is in a right state at the moment so if he only concentrates on the "old" tracks then the sport will die.
I'm sure they will eventually rotate back round again in years to come.
Bernie's job is to earn as much money for Bernie as Bernie can. The 'old' tracks are the best tracks in the world, they have history and have challenges that stretch each new racing driver generation that comes along, and long may they do so. I cannot see a time when F1 will be huge in the states, one race a year is probably all that will ever happen ... even two wouldn't make a dent in the little enthusiasm the yanks have for F1, I guess because of the size of the country, or the lack of American F1 drivers
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by s2k_Nut
Originally Posted by composite guru' timestamp='1319662461' post='21103766
[quote name='andy2000' timestamp='1319650331' post='21103057']
Yet again Bernie seems to be driven by the money.....F1 has never been huge in the US and I dont suppose this will make it any better. With the US and Middle East and Asia pushing for more and more races it can only have a negative impact on the historic circuits in Europe. There are only so many races you can fit into a season.

Still, maybe it could mean a few visits to some more exotic locations....
Unfortunately Bernie's job is to keep F1 alive and if cash is what it takes then that's what he has to do.

Europe is in a right state at the moment so if he only concentrates on the "old" tracks then the sport will die.
I'm sure they will eventually rotate back round again in years to come.
Bernie's job is to earn as much money for Bernie as Bernie can. The 'old' tracks are the best tracks in the world, they have history and have challenges that stretch each new racing driver generation that comes along, and long may they do so. I cannot see a time when F1 will be huge in the states, one race a year is probably all that will ever happen ... even two wouldn't make a dent in the little enthusiasm the yanks have for F1, I guess because of the size of the country, or the lack of American F1 drivers
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Of the new breed of F1 tracks the only one really worthy of note is Turkey, which has been dropped from the 2012 line up due to poor attendance figures. I know they are also having problems selling tickets for the Indian GP. I wonder how long that one will survive if that carries on. I suspect so long as someone is helping to line Bernie's nest it will stay put

I don't want F1 to be stuck in the past, but the European tracks do generally provide better racing as they have had time to develop and alter their layouts over the years. Just think how many times they've changed that first corner at Monza. Yet I also think it's important to see some new tracks, but only because they are good tracks and can prove themselves as decent venues. I don't like the idea of a brand new track being built, and it getting F1 status from day one. It should need to prove itself for a couple of years beforehand, that it can provide a decent spectacle for the paying fans.

I would love to see Imola return to the calendar and Mugello added.
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 01:54 AM
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The old tracks do need to deliver; it can't just be about nostalgia. But they generally do. I agree Turkey was probably the best of the new tracks, but China and Malaysia aren't bad, Korea looked kind of promising, and we don't know yet about India but it might be quite good. But they need to get the audiences in, something that was obviously lacking in Korea and will likely be a problem in India too.
Old Oct 27, 2011 | 02:18 AM
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I was in Turkey this year and was angered to see many of the stands half empty. Surely the rules of supply and demand would result in these venues having a reduced ticket price thus allowing more people to be able to afford the tickets. I wonder if the average Turk, Korean, etc. can run to the £100+ ticket price. It must be better to have a seat filled for a lower price than not filled at all.

I see that the Indian GP promoters are considering dropping ticket prices to get a few more punters through the gates. Fine unless you've already shelled out for one



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