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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
Schumacher 1994
Schumacher's team mates were JJ Lehto, Jos Verstappen and Johnny Herbert. And Schumacher was banned from two races. Kind of proves my point about #2 drivers.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MB
Looking to next season, there are seems to be an excess of drivers further down the ranks! Plus Kubica coming back...
Sadly I don't think we'll see Kubica coming back. Eric Boullier seemed quite cold on the idea, and I think what Brundle said yesterday was right: that if he was going to come back next year he'd at least have been around and taking part in tests by now.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...bica-s-return/

They seem to think November - January.

Slightly more up to date:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/131120...en-kubica.html

I know very little about the guy, but would seem he had potential. Shame if he couldn't get back in.

But i'd like to see Senna in F1!
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 07:57 AM
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Another strong performance from Team Brundle Coulthard. Their banter is getting more entertaining by the race and there's no disputing their technical knowledge is up to scratch ...
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 07:58 AM
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I think Kubica will be back, he was an amazing talent and a real up and coming star. He might not come back with Renault or Lotus or whatever the f@#k they are from next season but I think for sure he will be back with someone, even as a test driver for his first year. It would be a real shame if he didn't.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gbduo
I think Kubica will be back, he was an amazing talent and a real up and coming star. He might not come back with Renault or Lotus or whatever the f@#k they are from next season but I think for sure he will be back with someone, even as a test driver for his first year. It would be a real shame if he didn't.
I just can't see how he'll keep up ...

Old Nov 13, 2011 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiskine
Another strong performance from Team Brundle Coulthard. Their banter is getting more entertaining by the race and there's no disputing their technical knowledge is up to scratch ...
Agreed, their insights and pedigree are fascinating. I like that Ted bloke in the pit too. Not sexually though.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by s2k_Nut
It was good to see Hamilton prove me right today
No proof of Hamilton's raw talent required - proof of his mental strength certainly was and that was obvious from his team's comments as he crossed the line. Emphasis on "control" was glaring.

Hamilton and Alonso are by by far the most obviously talented drivers; the question remains as to whether Vettel joins them.

That'll only become clear when RBR's engineering edge is closed and he has to either scrap as Hamilton has had to or relax and find consistency has Button has done, in similar circumstances. I think that, as Nut has pointed out that Hamilton has done, Vettel will look ragged in those circumstances, but only because he's competing with whoever's up front rather than conserving a good finish. Vettel is Hamilton as Webber is Button.

Have skipped a few posts here, so apologies if someone's made this point already, but I believe that Button is one of the few, if not the only, driver to hit his first win at around 100 races. He's a triumph of perseverance on his own part and those of his various teams, and the the margin by which his talents are less obvious than Hamilton's are tiny.

But in F1, that's enough.
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedropsforglory
Hamilton and Alonso are by by far the most obviously talented drivers; the question remains as to whether Vettel joins them.
If you assume at the moment Red Bull > McLaren > Ferrari, then the only driver who's been consistently out-performing the car is Alonso. Massa being 5th or 6th is right where he should be, and Webber's been under-performing allowing one or other McLaren to often finish 2nd when really they should be 3rd and 4th. But by that criteria it's hard to judge Vettel, as he can't outperform the fastest car. He can only be first.

Vettel managed to win a race for Toro Rosso in 2008, Hamilton's championship winning year. He also scored points in his very first race, and that as a substitute for Kubica in a BMW, not even a full time driver. Unlike Hamilton we've seen him in midfield teams. I think it's a bit silly to suggest he isn't enormously talented. Perhaps it's that British thing of not liking winners?
Old Nov 13, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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What's going on with Alonso's eyebrows? Never noticed until today, but they are MASSIVE!



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