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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 12:48 AM
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Vettel stoking the flames.
On the one hand, I am the kind of guy that respects team decisions, but on the other hand, Mark was not the one that deserved it at the time.
Old Apr 12, 2013 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by arsie
Vettel stoking the flames.
On the one hand, I am the kind of guy that respects team decisions, but on the other hand, Mark was not the one that deserved it at the time.
Originally Posted by The Sun
And they also had a duel in the final race of last season in Brazil, which caused Vettel to crash on the first lap.
Hmm, obviously I was watching a different race. In the race I watch it was Senna that caused the crash with Vettel.

Standard quality journalism from The Sun right there.
Old Apr 12, 2013 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
Hmm, obviously I was watching a different race. In the race I watch it was Senna that caused the crash with Vettel.
You obviously were watching a different race.

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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus' timestamp='1365765617' post='22469008
Hmm, obviously I was watching a different race. In the race I watch it was Senna that caused the crash with Vettel.
You obviously were watching a different race.

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You're right, I should have posted that Senna and Vettel collided. However, I'd like to think I was infinitely closer than The Sun
Old Apr 12, 2013 | 05:33 AM
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Yeah i used to kinda like Vettel but after the shitty attitude and down right spoiled brat behavior I hope everyone else is gunning to kick his ass.

Yeah there is controversy about him winning the last race and I could live with that (MW fan here) but the way he is treating it afterwards is just downright wrong.
Old Apr 12, 2013 | 06:26 AM
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I thought in Brazil Webber had clearly moved over and let Vettel through. Not at the start, but later on. I think Vettel was mostly pissed off in Malaysia because the team had changed him from wets too early, and that's what let Webber take the lead. Except it was Vettel's call.

Whatever, I'm quite pleased this is all still kicking off. I really thought they'd close ranks, and it'd be all PR friendly smiles for the cameras. But clearly there's still a real bitterness between the two, and Horner has completely lost control. Which is great from a spectator point of view.
Old Apr 12, 2013 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dembo
Which is great from a spectator point of view.
Do you mean that we will see racing during the race?
Old Apr 12, 2013 | 09:35 AM
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The thing is, if Vettel was a real racer, he'd have got back on the Radio and said 'Sod off, i'm not holding station, Tell Mark i'm gonna get him'.

At this point Mark could have been warned to put his foot down and also demanded to stop first (Since he was in the lead) and thus get the under cut.

So if he'd have done that and still beaten webber, I don't think anyone would have been so bitter about it.
Old Apr 12, 2013 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
The thing is, if Vettel was a real racer, he'd have got back on the Radio and said 'Sod off, i'm not holding station, Tell Mark i'm gonna get him'.

At this point Mark could have been warned to put his foot down and also demanded to stop first (Since he was in the lead) and thus get the under cut.

So if he'd have done that and still beaten webber, I don't think anyone would have been so bitter about it.
Fair point but I just cannot get my head round that someone not in the car can determine who wins a race. We need to look at the definition of the word." a competition in which all the competitors try to be the fastest and to finish first" Which is not the same as Horner telling Vettel to let Webber win.
The problem is that the drivers are racing for the drivers championship but the teams are more interested in the constructors.
For myself I could not give a flying feck about the constructors, I want to see proper races.
Moto GP here I come!

EDIT TO ADD
After todays qualifying we will see if we have any recers left in GP!
Old Apr 12, 2013 | 11:58 PM
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It does seem a bit ironic, F1's popularity diminished due to a lack of overtaking and racing as it turned in to a procession of cars circulating a circuit.

Artificial overtaking devices are introduced to improve the racing for the fans and then team orders are given not to overtake..



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