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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 03:26 PM
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I notice that Georgie Boy has left the F1 Show and has been replaced by Pinky.
Old Mar 16, 2013 | 02:03 AM
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Well that was good. You'd have to say if they'd just run the whole thing on time it probably would have been okay, and the FIA could have easily mandated wets only if they were concerned.
Old Mar 16, 2013 | 02:19 AM
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Wet and cold is when driving is best, they should calendar the season to have more wet races and the manufacturers should just take that into account in design and setup.

If I called my boss and said I won't be in today, heavy rain and my car has no traction or stability control, it's rear wheel drive and on summer tyres, oh and it frizzes my hair. I'd soon find myself looking for work.

They have engine and gearbox limits and penalties to control budgets. Tyre limits to make strategies important. They should have accident and body work limits and penalties to control and penalize accidents and then just say go race and prove you're the best drivers in the world.

The two stand out performances for me were Rosberg and Vergne and just goes to show how weather takes the car out of the equation and lets a driver prove his metal.
Old Mar 16, 2013 | 04:16 AM
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^^^ so true; but the p*ssing rain would not attract the crowds or help the atmosphere.
Old Mar 16, 2013 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by arsie
^^^ so true; but the p*ssing rain would not attract the crowds or help the atmosphere.
Silverstone has been revealed as one of the most expensive races on the calender, is often wet and still draws a massive crowd. I watched the Renault World Series there a few years back at Brooklands corner and honestly being wet and cold didn't matter when you're watching proper on the limit racing.

They always go on about F1 tech being road car relevant. Probably why Bridgestone and Pirelli are such poor wet weather tyres
Old Mar 16, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PhilipGB
If I called my boss and said I won't be in today, heavy rain and my car has no traction or stability control, it's rear wheel drive and on summer tyres, oh and it frizzes my hair. I'd soon find myself looking for work.
I agree that the wet races are generally much more exciting than dry races, certainly more unpredictable, however I wouldn't go with your analogy above.

Comparing a road car to an F1 car in torrential rain doesn't work, especially when you get to the point where a fatality may occur.

A fair comparison would be that you called your boss because there was a foot of snow, lots of ice and cars were sliding off left right and centre.

Not knowing your boss I don't know whether (s)he'd sack you or not
Old Mar 16, 2013 | 08:12 AM
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There's a point where F1 cars can't run, as they're too low, and it would be silly to design the cars to cope with extreme wet conditions for the few times it might make a difference. But today's conditions didn't seem all that bad, and they mostly seemed to be talking about the white lines being slippery - well don't use them then. When they did run in Q1, after about 10 minutes they were all switching to intermediates.
Old Mar 17, 2013 | 01:26 AM
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This thread made me laugh:

http://community.codemasters.com/t5/...her/m-p/220874

Great race though. Can't remember the last time I saw 5 teams racing against each other rather than seeing races split into a few separate battles. And Kimi was awesome. They go on about Alonso being the best complete racer on the grid, but Kimi is so consistent, a competent over taker and still blindingly fast and doesn't need team preference to hand him a position.

Can't believe how backwards McLaren have gone. Have a hard time believing last years car wouldn't have been faster today, especially with the twelve months of development it had. Today felt like watching them in 2009. Big problem for them being this isn't the beginning of a set of rules but the swansong for them. They may always have been there or there abouts, but I can see them being in decline a la Williams.
Old Mar 17, 2013 | 01:47 AM
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I'm pretty sure that the McLaren is a brand new car and not an evolution of last year's which would explain the drop off in performance.

I'm also sure that there is a lot more in that car so once they've figured a few thing out they should be very fast, but how long will it take them is the issue.
Old Mar 17, 2013 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LTB
I'm pretty sure that the McLaren is a brand new car and not an evolution of last year's which would explain the drop off in performance.

I'm also sure that there is a lot more in that car so once they've figured a few thing out they should be very fast, but how long will it take them is the issue.
Thinking about it, with the change in DRS rules for quali, they're probably pretty much where they were last year on pace. But every other team has made huge leaps forward. The other teams were all faster in quali than last year, without free use of DRS.

Does make me wonder if perhaps the car was ok and they were just missing Hamiltons setup input.



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