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Old Jul 28, 2015 | 07:22 PM
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You're delusional. One driver you don't like gets inches away from the side of a car and you search for any reason to throw him under the bus. Every single race there are cars inches from each other. IT'S RACING! LOL.
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 09:54 PM
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It's stuff like this that makes racing exciting, not the follow the leader crap that we've been fed the last few years (including the times when RBR was winning too).
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD
You're delusional. One driver you don't like gets inches away from the side of a car and you search for any reason to throw him under the bus. Every single race there are cars inches from each other. IT'S RACING! LOL.
Sorry but your the deluded one. You clearly see Vettel edge closer to Hamilton when he didn't need too. There was no benefit to be had, but a whole lot of extra risk. Yes of course other racers get that close to each other at the start, it's to be expected when you have that many cars in such close proximity at the start. The difference is that further back down the grid they don't have much choice. Vettel steers closer to Hamilton when he's heading into the lead with room on his left side. One mistake or lapse in concentration from either driver and we have a major incident at the start.

I'm hardly throwing him under the bus, don't be so melodramatic. Apart from his stupid antics at the start Vettel drove the perfect race. And maybe if he stopped this kind of nonsense I might warm to him a bit more. I'm not that fond on Rosberg either after some of his dodgy antics last year. Yet you don't see him pulling this crap at the start, he's smarter than that.
Old Jul 29, 2015 | 02:38 AM
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Button rumoured to be joining top gear.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/...-Top-Gear.html
Old Jul 29, 2015 | 03:18 AM
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Button rumoured to be joining top gear.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/...-Top-Gear.html
"Others touted to join him include Jodie Kidd, Guy Martin, Philip Glenister and Dermot O'Leary."

JB is my firm favourite with Guy in second place. The rest are just a nightmare!
Old Jul 29, 2015 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by j8mie
Sorry but your the deluded one. You clearly see Vettel edge closer to Hamilton when he didn't need too. There was no benefit to be had, but a whole lot of extra risk.
Where you see risk I see skill and the heart of a champion. You say apart from the start Vettel drove a perfect race. I saw the whole race as perfect.

Rosberg, for instance, doesn't have a champions attitude. At the end of the race he stated that since he won the corner then Ricciardo should have yielded to him. I don't understand that myself. If you want to win you will do everything in your power to gain as many points as possible. He is always blaming something else instead of taking responsibility. He won't push the limits like other drivers.

Vettel can be brash. I think of "multi 21 Seb" with Webber. Vettel didn't obey team orders. He wanted to win... and he did.


It is fun debating racing with you. I enjoy seeing the other side from a different perspective. I believe all of the drivers should take calculated risk or they shouldn't race. Otherwise we could just end the weekend after qualy.
Old Jul 29, 2015 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD
ere you see risk I see skill and the heart of a champion. You say apart from the start Vettel drove a perfect race. I saw the whole race as perfect.

Rosberg, for instance, doesn't have a champions attitude. At the end of the race he stated that since he won the corner then Ricciardo should have yielded to him. I don't understand that myself.
Hamilton is constantly expecting other drivers to jump out of his way. He forced Bottas off the road in Hungary and got away with it.

Rules state that you must give a car who is at least half way along side you a car's width. Hamilton happily turfs people off and gets away with it. He tried to do it to Riccardo and Ricciardo didn't move, thus he got a penalty for causing the collision.
Old Jul 29, 2015 | 05:08 AM
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Can you site the rule number so I can read up on it?
Old Jul 29, 2015 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
Hamilton is constantly expecting other drivers to jump out of his way. He forced Bottas off the road in Hungary and got away with it.

Rules state that you must give a car who is at least half way along side you a car's width. Hamilton happily turfs people off and gets away with it. He tried to do it to Riccardo and Ricciardo didn't move, thus he got a penalty for causing the collision.
I agree with the first point, had Bottas not backed off, Hamilton would probably have suffered the same fate as Rosberg.

As for the second, Hamilton got a penalty because he locked up and understeered, out of control, into the side of Ricciardo, causing a collision.

Ricciardo did exactly the same thing in the first part of the corner, locked up and understeered out of control but didn't hit anyone, running to the outside of the corner - no collision, no penalty.
He then tried the undercut and should probably have backed out of it like Bottas did, but it's no big deal that he didn't, so no penalty.
Old Jul 29, 2015 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MR.CLIFFORD
Can you site the rule number so I can read up on it?
Haven't you heard what Perez says everytime he collides with another car?
"He didn't leave me any space!!"



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