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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 06:24 AM
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As I said earlier, I would expect it to be less of a production car than the Elise and need a lot of looking after.
I don't think it would be taht bad as long as you limited your driving from April till October.

The engine/drivetrain is basic and well proven. No FREDs and other complex electronics.

You couldn't be using it as a daily though, nor would you want to really.

As for comfort - the Westfield, in anything other than severe rain, is pretty good for 2-3hr journeys.
Given that a fair few of here use our S as a daily, what is it about the Ginetta that means that one couldn't use it as your daily in the same way, if so minded?
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedropsforglory
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As I said earlier, I would expect it to be less of a production car than the Elise and need a lot of looking after.
I don't think it would be taht bad as long as you limited your driving from April till October.

The engine/drivetrain is basic and well proven. No FREDs and other complex electronics.

You couldn't be using it as a daily though, nor would you want to really.

As for comfort - the Westfield, in anything other than severe rain, is pretty good for 2-3hr journeys.
Given that a fair few of here use our S as a daily, what is it about the Ginetta that means that one couldn't use it as your daily in the same way, if so minded?
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Off the top of my head (having used an Exige as a DD as well as an S)....

Noise - they will be noisy, sub 800kg means no soundproofing.
Ride on UK roads - sub 800kg also means it will be uncomfortable on bumpy, potholed and badly repaired roads. It'll also be twitchy and follow cambers etc.
Fit and finish - it's bound to leak water somewhere, have a draught/heat soak making it cold in winter and hot in summer.

If you can put up with that, you'll probably find you could use it as a DD. As said, it's primarily an alternative to the Elise, a road-going trackday car, some use them as DDs, most don't however.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 06:40 AM
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It's a racing car that's been made road legal, not a mass produced shopping car.

Bits will fall off unless given constant attention, like a Caterham or a Westfield.

The factory 'tuning' option tells you what it's all about.

It's a toy. I love it.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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Exactly; to be unfair, it's a Caterfield with some bath panels screwed on it to make a coupe.

It is NOT an MX-5/BRZ/FT-86/S2000; that is why it is so light. In race trim, the Toyobaru comes in at around 1100KG with 200BHP.

There is no magic bullet. It will be crude to drive on the pubic highway.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkB
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Given that a fair few of here use our S as a daily, what is it about the Ginetta that means that one couldn't use it as your daily in the same way, if so minded?
Off the top of my head (having used an Exige as a DD as well as an S)....

Noise - they will be noisy, sub 800kg means no soundproofing.
Ride on UK roads - sub 800kg also means it will be uncomfortable on bumpy, potholed and badly repaired roads. It'll also be twitchy and follow cambers etc.
Fit and finish - it's bound to leak water somewhere, have a draught/heat soak making it cold in winter and hot in summer.

If you can put up with that, you'll probably find you could use it as a DD. As said, it's primarily an alternative to the Elise, a road-going trackday car, some use them as DDs, most don't however.
Fair enough - but I'm surprised how many Elise DDs I know and TBH, the fact that the S affords a surprising degree of civilisation along with the driving experience, to me that's just a bonus - it's the the driving experience that turns a dead and dreary two hours of every day into something that I actually enjoy.

If my daily drive was something other than gently twisting, reasonably clear, cotswold A-road; I might feel different of course but I'm looking very seriously at the G40R as and when the S dies (long away may that day be..).

Certainly appreciate it wo't be for all or even most, but think you could do it and get a lot of fun out of doing it.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedropsforglory
Certainly appreciate it wo't be for all or even most, but think you could do it and get a lot of fun out of doing it.
100% agree, for those of us that still want to enjoy our day to day driving, it's a welcome addition to Lotus' offerings.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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And EVERY Ginetta comes complete with HEL lines to stop you......
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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I noticed that. The F400/G60 tech details mentioned them and I thought of your build thread on here....
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkB
Originally Posted by Hedropsforglory' timestamp='1319212916' post='21089971
Certainly appreciate it wo't be for all or even most, but think you could do it and get a lot of fun out of doing it.
100% agree, for those of us that still want to enjoy our day to day driving, it's a welcome addition to Lotus' offerings.
Exactly. Also it comes with 'interior trim options' (presumably some or none) so I'm sure Mr Tomlinson would stuff soundproofing into it if you asked nicely.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Actually, I'd like to find out a lot more about it.

Whereas the constant, inevitable stream of half-arsed supercars from sheds bores me shitless, something like the G40 strikes me as really interesting and they do have a history of good engineering.
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