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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 10:34 AM
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Moving this to a thread of it's own as interested in others view.

Have been considering going electric for a while. My next daily drive will almost certainly be a hybrid at least.

Saw this in the flesh at GFoS and I love it. Have been uninspired by the crop of electric cars so far but this seems to have had some thought put into it (and not just because its another Honda for the stable). Loads of sensible tech in it - not just gimmicks - stuff that looks like it will be useful.

I would still want a petrol for those trips down to the Med and beyond so would have to run CRV and S2000 alongside it. But for local driving this seems to tick most boxes.

Will await UK pricing to decide whether to look at a new one, but have registered interest with Honda UK. Not sure how second hand would work out once they start hitting the market. Anyone got any experience with 2nd hand electric yet ? would like to know how many charge cycles the batteries could go through before their performance gets compromised.

And also cute enough for the wife to feel like driving it.


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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 02:14 PM
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i agree Andy, i'm interested in the e.. i do short hops (school runs) and stuff only really. I commute on a bike and its <10 miles currently

i am concerned how they'll price it

Tesla 3 - too fugly
Tesla S - too pricey for my needs
Tesla X - too big for UK roads though i really did like it
All Tesla's i wonder if something goes wrong how easy they are to sort

Kia - sorry, no
Jag iPace - too pricey and i cant stand flakey reliability
Nissan Leaf - pondered but our current Nissan drives me nuts.. still a maybe
BMW i3 - horrific ride, worse styling

interesting to see how it pans out.. i pondered putting a deposit down but too little info at the mo
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 04:37 PM
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Interesting. Looks cute will see if SWMBO agrees.

Range? Weight? Need to know if this could replace the W451 Smart cabrio behind our motorhome
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 11:39 PM
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Range is not good on these, and apparently pricing is going to be around £35k.

The VW ID is the most likely contender IMO

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review...-3-2020-review
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Old Aug 2, 2019 | 11:58 PM
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Any VW will claim a range and do 1/2 of that downhill

the rumour mill says the e will be sub 30k. It needs to be

range 125 miles Rog
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Old Aug 3, 2019 | 06:28 AM
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I'd love to have a go (looking forward to killing the battery in one run up & down the A507) but it presently makes zero sense when you could have a CTR for about the same money.

Maybe secondhand...
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 12:46 AM
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let's say
both cars cost the same for easy sums sake
our family car does 8k miles per annum
a CTR does 30mpg
insurance is comparable

that's 266 gallons at 30mpg in a CTR
yesterday i paid 145.9p per litre for v-power
£6.62 per gallon
£1760 for fuel for the year
Tax £325
Total £2,085

64 charges of an e @ 32kwh
12.5p per kwh (they are pretty much 100% efficient i believe)
£256
tax £0
able to use bus lanes
total £256

now roll that over 10 years and you are talking £20k vs £2.5k.. obviously there are a lot of variables i've not tried to take into account including the fact that the CTR retails at 33k+ and the e is expected to come in around 28k. servicing will be much cheaper, in theory, on the electric car too
they arent really comparable but it was interesting to tot up. even if the e charging is less efficient it's still very cheap to run by comparison and you can install a charger at home and never visit the petrol station in it.. it appeals to me, zero emmissions, cheap to run, quick enough for a family runabout and covers 98% of our use on this tinchy island and a tiny turning circle for amusement. plus it's correct wheel drive

here's EE's road trip in a Tesla in the US (where the charging infra is much better than here i believe)

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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 04:03 AM
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But why do they have to look like Noddy cars?

Surely someone can design a car at that price point which 'the wife wouldn't want to drive' and I would

I don't want to drive the electric equivalent of a fecking Fiat 500 however frugal it might be!

I am neither female or an estate agent
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi
But why do they have to look like Noddy cars?

Surely someone can design a car at that price point which 'the wife wouldn't want to drive' and I would

I don't want to drive the electric equivalent of a fecking Fiat 500 however frugal it might be!

I am neither female or an estate agent
Because it was inspired by the MK1 Civic


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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi
But why do they have to look like Noddy cars?

Surely someone can design a car at that price point which 'the wife wouldn't want to drive' and I would

I don't want to drive the electric equivalent of a fecking Fiat 500 however frugal it might be!

I am neither female or an estate agent
The tesla X and S look ok imo




if you fancy a cayenne s for example you are buying obselete imho

This honda is different segment, and yeah a bit pricey perhaps
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