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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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see above lol!
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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13mpg...pussy.
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Old Oct 19, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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Cheers Chris!

More or less what I anticipated. Many blootooths (?) are crap, but the aircon is a curious cockup!

I like that it DOES have that rare, 'special' feeling.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Hypersonik,Oct 19 2009, 12:14 PM

Plus, how many people on Piston Heads will now think that having a heavier car means you corner faster?
have you actually tried it?

i can only speak from experience. having a passanger in my S2000 gave the car more cornering grip.

the acceleration was severly hampered with the extra weight so overall the lap times will be a lot slower. so no point with the extra weight then! i can understand a heavy car with big tyres will have lots of grip. doesn't mean everyone should be carrying 200kgs of lead, that would be daft.


going back to the Tojiero Buick with the 20kgs of lead in its nose. as redesigning a 46 year old historic car is out of the question the next best thing to make this car a little more stable is with lead. but as the car only weighs 750kgs anyway i'm sure a little compromise wont hurt.


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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by B0ZWELL,Oct 20 2009, 11:44 PM
have you actually tried it?

i can only speak from experience. having a passanger in my S2000 gave the car more cornering grip.
Probably because it lowered the CoG, but definitely not because of the weight.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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Yeah and what happens when it reaches breakaway? Sayonara...

It's very difficult to demonstrate the S2000's oversteerability with a passenger on board. I probably need more -ve camber at the back.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Oct 21 2009, 10:03 AM
Yeah and what happens when it reaches breakaway? Sayonara...

It's very difficult to demonstrate the S2000's oversteerability with a passenger on board. I probably need more -ve camber at the back.
No, FRED's Japanese cousin, "FLED" appears and sorts things out

Still, it can't be any worse than what happens when a car has the engine hung out behind the rear wheels

I'm sure your passengers are quite pleased about that really.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:51 AM
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It's part of the coercion I use; you WILL buy an S2000 or I'll not stop...

Cars with their engine in the wrong place only really work well on a track, with big run-off areas. When a 911 starts shaking its booty about on the public highway, you can feel the potential for a big mess building up. One tends to be going quite quickly at that point. I prefer cars that feel more benign on the edge of drift.

I like being on the edge of drift, so too much roadholding may be a bad thing...
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Part 2.

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=20841
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Oct 21 2009, 10:51 AM
I like being on the edge of drift, so too much roadholding may be a bad thing...
You see that is how I felt when I fitted the R888s to the S.

And you soon learn to get around it
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