S2000 vs Boxster
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Originally Posted by GiffS2K' timestamp='1387481673' post='22930628
No idea at all!
Was interesting reading your link that said Warranty Direct's figures show the 987 to be 38% LESS reliable than the 986, something is really not right there.
Was interesting reading your link that said Warranty Direct's figures show the 987 to be 38% LESS reliable than the 986, something is really not right there.
38% likelihood of failure vs 28% for the 986.
I'll help you out. The Porsche warranty is more expensive because they have to pay out more money, more often because their cars break down more often, which means they are less reliable.
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Originally Posted by GiffS2K' timestamp='1387481124' post='22930602
I don't speak Swedish but the Rover 75 seems to come out well..
Are you affiliated with Warranty Direct?
Are you affiliated with Warranty Direct?
Cam belts, chains, axle faults...
Unless you mean it's surprisingly less shit than the 159
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From: In the land of pies and pasties
I'm under the impression that if the Porker was as reliable as an S2000, it would be more expensive to buy on the used market. They are devestatingly cheap, yes a posers car but a bloody good one at that. To own one, you really have to be in a deep and meaningful relationship with your Indy.. just to keep nasty surprise costs down. It is on my "gotta own one" list, despite the risk of issues.
So to underline it.. It's why its cheap
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They issue warranties to 100 986s and 100 987s.
28 986s break down vs 38 987s. (both pretty poor and way in excess of what you'd experience if you were to look at a similar sample of S2000s).
The maths is very simple from there.
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The Warranty Direct Reliability Index shows otherwise
986 http://www.reliabili...lity/search/263 Index 361
987 http://www.reliabili...lity/search/262 Index 210
S2000 http://www.reliabili...lity/search/124 Index 54
(Lower is better and the average number is 100).
Here are all the open top ratings: http://www.reliabili...s/best/Open-Top
986 http://www.reliabili...lity/search/263 Index 361
987 http://www.reliabili...lity/search/262 Index 210
S2000 http://www.reliabili...lity/search/124 Index 54
(Lower is better and the average number is 100).
Here are all the open top ratings: http://www.reliabili...s/best/Open-Top
Why is that? The statistics are pretty simple.
They issue warranties to 100 986s and 100 987s.
28 986s break down vs 38 987s. (both pretty poor and way in excess of what you'd experience if you were to look at a similar sample of S2000s).
The maths is very simple from there.
They issue warranties to 100 986s and 100 987s.
28 986s break down vs 38 987s. (both pretty poor and way in excess of what you'd experience if you were to look at a similar sample of S2000s).
The maths is very simple from there.
The statistics are clearly flawed.
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I guess the other issue with such statistics is just how comprehensive is each warranty. This applies to all cars not just the two specifics being discussed above. If one manufacture has a warranty that does not cover low level issues but they are common ones or certain aspects, electrics etc. are not covered but others do then the figures will provide a disproportionate view as one set could hide a lot of small issues by not classing them as failures.
Guess its a whole new area of discussion.
I did not have extended warranty on the Honda so I do not know but would it over an Alarm failure and replacement and I know they do not cover the seized bushes which could be argued as an issue but is not covered, but pretty much the majority of S2000 have suffered that (what I can infer from the previous threads on the forum only).
To me the only things that are worth comparing is Gearbox, Braking, Driveshaft / Differentials and Engine failures. The rest are relatively minor in the seriousness of their failures in comparison.
Clearly they must have the figures for this but do not provide the data set I guess.
Guess its a whole new area of discussion.
I did not have extended warranty on the Honda so I do not know but would it over an Alarm failure and replacement and I know they do not cover the seized bushes which could be argued as an issue but is not covered, but pretty much the majority of S2000 have suffered that (what I can infer from the previous threads on the forum only).
To me the only things that are worth comparing is Gearbox, Braking, Driveshaft / Differentials and Engine failures. The rest are relatively minor in the seriousness of their failures in comparison.
Clearly they must have the figures for this but do not provide the data set I guess.
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To me the only things that are worth comparing is Gearbox, Braking, Driveshaft / Differentials and Engine failures. The rest are relatively minor in the seriousness of their failures in comparison.
Clearly they must have the figures for this but do not provide the data set I guess.
Clearly they must have the figures for this but do not provide the data set I guess.
Certainly nothing like the well known engine-replacement jobs on the Boxsters.