It's nothing like pushing in the queue! Roundabouts are self regulating, pushing in the queue isn't!

This all started because Dixon says he has done it and he got flamed. All I have said, as others have too is that he isn't the only one who has been known to do it. Why people think this is an excuse for a row I don't know. Some people do it some don't, end of story. Why people have to get on their high horses I don't know.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse?
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No, I only piped up to state that Dixon wasn't the only one who has been known to do it. Then I get abused. Wasn't for an argument, just to state that he wasn't alone.
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where's the abuse to which you refer?
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Ok, abuse might have been the wrong word but it seemed a bit like I was getting ganged up on which is what was happening to Dixon originally so in his defense I just stated that I have been known to do the same. I don't make a habit of it, in fact it may happen once a year if circumstances dictate but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. As a rule I try to drive respectfully but on the odd occasion things are bad around my way and it becomes a bit "dog eat dog" and and eventually I give in and to hell with politeness. Its not a heinous crime, I don't cut people up, I don't jump lights etc. Just very occasionally when things are bad I ....cheat. I am not the only one that does it and I very much doubt its illegal, maybe it's "not cricket" but there's worse things that happen. I may have got on my own high horse but I felt it was pick on Toully day!

 

With all due respect LG, so is speeding but I guarantee we all do it.

 

It's nothing like pushing in the queue! Roundabouts are self regulating, pushing in the queue isn't!

This all started because Dixon says he has done it and he got flamed. All I have said, as others have too is that he isn't the only one who has been known to do it. Why people think this is an excuse for a row I don't know. Some people do it some don't, end of story. Why people have to get on their high horses I don't know.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse?
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No, I only piped up to state that Dixon wasn't the only one who has been known to do it. Then I get abused. Wasn't for an argument, just to state that he wasn't alone.
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where's the abuse to which you refer?
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Ok, abuse might have been the wrong word but it seemed a bit like I was getting ganged up on which is what was happening to Dixon originally so in his defense I just stated that I have been known to do the same. I don't make a habit of it, in fact it may happen once a year if circumstances dictate but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. As a rule I try to drive respectfully but on the odd occasion things are bad around my way and it becomes a bit "dog eat dog" and and eventually I give in and to hell with politeness. Its not a heinous crime, I don't cut people up, I don't jump lights etc. Just very occasionally when things are bad I ....cheat. I am not the only one that does it and I very much doubt its illegal, maybe it's "not cricket" but there's worse things that happen. I may have got on my own high horse but I felt it was pick on Toully day!
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It's not pick on you day. But if you admit to behaviour which is inconsiderate towards others - LG points out the reason why - then expect to get judged on your behaviour. Let's face it every day people judge you on your behaviour, whether you like it or not.

As for speeding I don't see how this is inconsiderate to others. Whereas someone sitting in the middle lane of the motorway doing 70 and holding others up is IMO inconsiderate.

 

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As for speeding I don't see how this is inconsiderate to others. Whereas someone sitting in the middle lane of the motorway doing 70 and holding others up is IMO inconsiderate.
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Last time I looked looping around a roundabout wasn't very high on the biggest cause of road deaths. My point is, as I stated before, its not illegal but "maybe" its cheating a little but what is starting to annoy me is the fact that speeding which we all know kills people seems to be acceptable yet looping around a roundabout to gain an advantage warrants a slating by a few people on here. I could expect the slating if I stated I was a serial drink driver or that I always jump lights or something like that ( I'm not and I don't BTW!).It's just not being kept in perspective, in my opinion. It's a little cheeky at the most surely?

 

That's a very strange argument.

I see you've avoided the point about what would happen if everyone did it.

 

That's a very strange argument.

I see you've avoided the point about what would happen if everyone did it.
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Not deliberately avoiding any point just getting fed up with gang warfare! And my point about speeding isn't strange just showing that the flaming I get for stating that under certain circumstances I have been known to loop a roundabout start all sorts of responses yet if someone stated they were doing 60 in a 40 then no-one would bat an eyelid.

If everyone did it then the left lane would be empty!!

 

That's a very strange argument.

I see you've avoided the point about what would happen if everyone did it.
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Not deliberately avoiding any point just getting fed up with gang warfare! And my point about speeding isn't strange just showing that the flaming I get for stating that under certain circumstances I have been known to loop a roundabout start all sorts of responses yet if someone stated they were doing 60 in a 40 then no-one would bat an eyelid.

If everyone did it then the left lane would be empty!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FFyc...CAEEA37986C181

Zoolander style!

 

Well I think it's more than a little cheeky. We have exactly the scenario we've been discussing locally in Stourport. Coming from Worcester on a single carriageway road you approach a roundabout and about 200 yards before it the road opens up into 2 lanes. At 5ish there's always a half mile tailback because Stourport's traffic system is s**t. A fair number whip into the right hand lane and then go right around the roundabout thereby delaying everyone who's prepared to stay in the LH lane. That in my book is inconsiderate.

As for speeding, speeding does not of itself kill anybody. Bad driving kills people and using excessive speed for the conditions is bad driving. But doing 120 down the M5 at 2 in the morning when there is just about nothing on the road is not IMO an excessive use of speed. Doing 50 in fog on the motorway can be an excessive use of speed.

Speed limits are always to some degree arbitrary and take no account of whether its rush hour or 2am, whether it's dry or wet, or whether it's sunny or foggy. The most important thing is to drive within your and the car's capabilities taking account of the conditions.

 

I think it's inconsiderate of your county council not to do anything about the traffic congestion

 

I agree with you regarding speeding but my point is valid, looping around a roundabout seems to have got me flamed more than if I was stating I was regularly speeding, yet I believe speeding is a greater offense. Ok, looping may upset some people, but as I said its only occasionally and only when things have got totally out of hand besides is there anyone that can put their hand on their heart and state they have NEVER done anything that may upset another road user. The answer is almost certainly no, so I just thought the flaming was excessive, unnecessary and maybe even a little hypocritical. (and that's not me calling you a hypocrite, just saying no-one has absolutely perfect road manners.)