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Old May 5, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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Have a few questions on turbo setups... right now my bb ap1 is currently locked up until i get back afghanistan. So when i get back i finally pay her off(only been just over a year of payments), basically im planning on getting a cheap DD and make the S a project car. ive got a couple mods done, usual... wheels/tires/exhaust/etc... ive love the feel of boosted setups, esp after driving 04briggs a while back(sick car btw). i am in the 152,xxx mileage club so i know a motor rebuild would prob be a first. So what do i need to do as far as internals go for a strong built motor that can handle around 400+/- hp?.. where would i start?. any input will be appreciated. thanks!
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Old May 5, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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I would do a compression and leakdown test first. If the motor is healthy. Don' t worry about building it. If its weak call up inline pro. There builder is one of the best in the country.
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Old May 6, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by japhethwar
I would do a compression and leakdown test first. If the motor is healthy. Don' t worry about building it. If its weak call up inline pro. There builder is one of the best in the country.
I COMPLETELY AGREE!!! Inlinepro built my 2.4 stroker in my AP1 and its a torquey little thing buzzing around everywhere! Huge difference now, its been sleeved and stroked with 9:1 compression now instead of 11:1 stock compression. I have a 60 trim turbonetics and i hit full boosted just right before 4K and it pulls hard and strong. Plan on setting money aside for the inline pro rear diff unless you wanna break diffs like me...its a solid investment if you plan on keeping your car for a while. If you have questions let me know and I can answer as many that I can, and if you thinking of my setup we can always go for a ride when ya get back. Stay safe over there and God bless
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Old May 6, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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i did a compression check a couple months ago. was still in the oem parameters, but fiance's neighbor says "it smells like you need new rings"... idk his mechanical abilities or history of that. ill get to that leakdown when i gets back home. as far as a setup; i want to build a bit of a beast but still be able to DD if need be. i think in the 400-450hp range on pump gas would be good for me


conzetts2k, when you say build do you mean he shipped you parts needed or you shipped him empty block/head?. and how much would that run me?
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Old May 6, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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450 is nothing on these motors man. There's no need to build it for that kind of power. You could maybe put in a new set of mahle pistons and fresh bearings, but I wouldn't waste money on a full build for that power level. Get on the FI forum and start researching, there are lots of guy's in the 600's on the stock engine with E85. As far as price on the build, I know of a few people who spent in the 4k range for there builds, but like anything it depends on what you buy. Be careful over there buddy.
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Old May 6, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by americandrug
i did a compression check a couple months ago. was still in the oem parameters, but fiance's neighbor says "it smells like you need new rings"... idk his mechanical abilities or history of that. ill get to that leakdown when i gets back home. as far as a setup; i want to build a bit of a beast but still be able to DD if need be. i think in the 400-450hp range on pump gas would be good for me


conzetts2k, when you say build do you mean he shipped you parts needed or you shipped him empty block/head?. and how much would that run me?
I was in the field and my car was spitting oil out of the breather filter on the valve cover and the #3 piston had no spark, so I called Tom from Inline Pro and he came down and picked it up and towed it up to VA. I spent a lot on the whole process, if you want you can send them a block to have sleeved and built if you like but I sent the whole car. They found out my AEM burned out a coil driver and the #1 cylinder wall was scored really bad(reason why oil was spitting out of breather filter) so I told them to build the engine. It was something like $4500 for blue printed built short block and another $1000 for the K24 crank that they had to machine to specs to be a F24 stroker. And of course I had them change out their signature TCT, add oil cooler, 900CC injectors, tune the AEM EMS, new clutch, and new oil line from oil filter relocation kit(I blew an oil line on the dyno and made a huge mess). It took Inline pro 3 months start to finish. The car is over built now but that engine can take it all day and my only worries are the diff breaking again, but I don't launch it and the 1st diff lasted 7 years 120K miles boosted and 10K miles N/A. Just all depends on how ya drive in the end.
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Old May 6, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by conzetts2k
Originally Posted by americandrug' timestamp='1336332414' post='21674141
i did a compression check a couple months ago. was still in the oem parameters, but fiance's neighbor says "it smells like you need new rings"... idk his mechanical abilities or history of that. ill get to that leakdown when i gets back home. as far as a setup; i want to build a bit of a beast but still be able to DD if need be. i think in the 400-450hp range on pump gas would be good for me


conzetts2k, when you say build do you mean he shipped you parts needed or you shipped him empty block/head?. and how much would that run me?
I was in the field and my car was spitting oil out of the breather filter on the valve cover and the #3 piston had no spark, so I called Tom from Inline Pro and he came down and picked it up and towed it up to VA. I spent a lot on the whole process, if you want you can send them a block to have sleeved and built if you like but I sent the whole car. They found out my AEM burned out a coil driver and the #1 cylinder wall was scored really bad(reason why oil was spitting out of breather filter) so I told them to build the engine. It was something like $4500 for blue printed built short block and another $1000 for the K24 crank that they had to machine to specs to be a F24 stroker. And of course I had them change out their signature TCT, add oil cooler, 900CC injectors, tune the AEM EMS, new clutch, and new oil line from oil filter relocation kit(I blew an oil line on the dyno and made a huge mess). It took Inline pro 3 months start to finish. The car is over built now but that engine can take it all day and my only worries are the diff breaking again, but I don't launch it and the 1st diff lasted 7 years 120K miles boosted and 10K miles N/A. Just all depends on how ya drive in the end.
If you have questions as to how it drives, handles and where power and torque are on it ask RedCelica...He took it for a drive last week Saturday.
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Old May 7, 2012 | 04:14 AM
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boosting a motor with 150k is a time bomb waiting to go off.

You can do a pretty cheap build with bc rods/mahle pistons using the motor you have, no need to sleeve it and its not too expensive.

I just finished a build for a customer using a precision 5431 (reallly small turbo) on a 9:1 bc/mahle motor I built for him. On 12psi it made 430hp/330tq. It will last forever at that power level and dropping compression makes it much more pump gas friendly. Way more room for something stupid to happen and not destroy the motor.
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