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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NikePenguin' date='Feb 17 2005, 11:56 PM
for the ad companies but for someone ele though we may not know who that is.
Ah, that's where this "no net loss" economic argument goes awry. There is a definite net loss. For instance, the ad company has less income (loss #1) thus paying less taxes (loss #2) and reducing payroll by laying off graphics guy (now he's out real money)(loss #3). And I won't even go into the unemployment costs to the state, etc.

Graphics guy, who would have taken some of that hard-earned money and spent it on tickets, beer, and a jersey for his g/f, now is living on less money, the g/f leaves him and moves back to Ohio with her outlaw biker fvck, and so graphics guy spends more on cheap beer at sleazy bar (gain#1) but gets in a wreck on the way home and gets a DUI (more losses, but insurance companies somehow profit).

Summary? No hockey sux. And then Gretzky is on the news last night, complacent as hell, saying he doesn't expect any more dialogue until next September.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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Damn the outlaw bikers!
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly' date='Feb 13 2005, 04:20 PM
Sweet! 4-2 win to earn 3 points for the weekend. Murphy with a goal and assist, and freshman Jimmy Kerr chips in 2 goals. Murphy remains the NCAA assist leader and is 3rd overall in scoring behind Colorado College's duo of Sertich and Sterling
3-3 tie with rival Northern Michigan...

Check out the Box score!

Also, a really good article on MTU's captain, Colin Murphy. Pretty cool when a Hockey East reporter gives a WCHA guy a Hobey Baker nod...
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Getting rid of the red line is a silly arse move. Long passes would totally fark up the game.

You're right Billy... if they enforce the existing rules you'd see a far better game. You know what would come back if they pushed the rules to the limit... you'd see more neutral zone play including neutral zone hitting. Haven't seen much of that since the orig 6 days. Saw it in the world jr's though.

I *also* think (heretic that I am) the goalie should be fair game if he leaves his crease. He's just another player. Hit him... if there's retaliation it's a major. Likewise if the goalie slashes the man in the box... major.

You'd see more goals and you'd see more action.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jedwards' date='Feb 18 2005, 01:43 PM

I *also* think (heretic that I am) the goalie should be fair game if he leaves his crease. He's just another player. Hit him... if there's retaliation it's a major. Likewise if the goalie slashes the man in the box... major.

You'd see more goals and you'd see more action.
I agree completely. Like a 'keeper in football.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jedwards' date='Feb 18 2005, 01:43 PM
Getting rid of the red line is a silly arse move. Long passes would totally fark up the game.

You're right Billy... if they enforce the existing rules you'd see a far better game. You know what would come back if they pushed the rules to the limit... you'd see more neutral zone play including neutral zone hitting. Haven't seen much of that since the orig 6 days. Saw it in the world jr's though.

I *also* think (heretic that I am) the goalie should be fair game if he leaves his crease. He's just another player. Hit him... if there's retaliation it's a major. Likewise if the goalie slashes the man in the box... major.

You'd see more goals and you'd see more action.



The only caveat would be that the refs would have to call charging/boarding on players who took runs at goalies - which you know would happen.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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Not a problem.. part of what I (we) are suggesting. Call the friggin play. Now if it's a clean check it's fine... if it's a charge etc call it. I think we'd see a lot of clean checks on goalies and others if that was the approach.
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SR71BB' date='Feb 18 2005, 10:49 AM
I agree completely. Like a 'keeper in football.
Uhhh... I guess so.


Old Feb 18, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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clutching and grabbing has ruined the game ...and now the 2 unions buffoons continue the clutching and grabbing
Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SR71BB' date='Feb 18 2005, 08:39 AM
Ah, that's where this "no net loss" economic argument goes awry. There is a definite net loss. For instance, the ad company has less income (loss #1) thus paying less taxes (loss #2) and reducing payroll by laying off graphics guy (now he's out real money)(loss #3). And I won't even go into the unemployment costs to the state, etc.

Graphics guy, who would have taken some of that hard-earned money and spent it on tickets, beer, and a jersey for his g/f, now is living on less money, the g/f leaves him and moves back to Ohio with her outlaw biker fvck, and so graphics guy spends more on cheap beer at sleazy bar (gain#1) but gets in a wreck on the way home and gets a DUI (more losses, but insurance companies somehow profit).

Summary? No hockey sux. And then Gretzky is on the news last night, complacent as hell, saying he doesn't expect any more dialogue until next September.
Now follow the trail on the benefit side.



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