Which Air Intake?
Compare AEM/Injen/knockoffs with any of the JDM intakes and you're soon realize that AEM is cheap crap.
I had water in my intake pipe from just light rain. I always avoid flooded areas and even have my drain holes plugged. But yet I almost hydrolocked, twice now. Twice I lucked out.
And when I called AEM about this, their reply was "oh well, thats too bad."
I had water in my intake pipe from just light rain. I always avoid flooded areas and even have my drain holes plugged. But yet I almost hydrolocked, twice now. Twice I lucked out.
And when I called AEM about this, their reply was "oh well, thats too bad."
<----has AEM V2 with no problems. I have heard all sorts of horror stories so I guess I am just lucky.
By no means is the V2 cheap crap. That is about as smart as saying "Compare AEM/Injen/knockoffs with any of the JDM intakes....." = heeeeh???
TheJapanese can't make cheap crap??? Just because it comes from across the pond, does not make it better. There are thousands of 10.00 intakes FROM JAPAN on ebay that I would take serious offense to if someone were to say it was better than the V2. That statement makes you sound like a JDM whore.
I am sure AEM spent millions of dollars on research and thousands of hours on design to produce an engine killer to make sure no one would ever use thier product again.
The main point about this disagreement is being overlooked. These CAI's are considered (usually) to be RACE parts and not specifically designed to be used on the street or in daily weather. So much of this argument is moot.
I just don't like the idea of someone bashing a part I find to be particularly good, and making the main point sound like:, because it is not JDM, it is crap.
If you had a bad experience with the intake then fine, define the problems and discuss how the design of the product contributed to your issues. If you think they are cheap products, then discuss the workmanship of the parts and cite issues about it.
I may be wrong about liking my V2, I need your information to help me understand the product I purchased. If needed I can certainly fill up a page or so about what I feel are the benefits of the V2 and how it is a quality product at a good price compared to the high dollar JDM giants like J's Racing, Spoon, and ARC
I am not busting balls here, I just want (and I am sure the original author of this thread does too) concise commentary on a variety of products, not "_______sucks" and "___________ = crap" without any supporting comments to back them up.
No flaming intended
By no means is the V2 cheap crap. That is about as smart as saying "Compare AEM/Injen/knockoffs with any of the JDM intakes....." = heeeeh???
TheJapanese can't make cheap crap??? Just because it comes from across the pond, does not make it better. There are thousands of 10.00 intakes FROM JAPAN on ebay that I would take serious offense to if someone were to say it was better than the V2. That statement makes you sound like a JDM whore.
I am sure AEM spent millions of dollars on research and thousands of hours on design to produce an engine killer to make sure no one would ever use thier product again.
The main point about this disagreement is being overlooked. These CAI's are considered (usually) to be RACE parts and not specifically designed to be used on the street or in daily weather. So much of this argument is moot.
I just don't like the idea of someone bashing a part I find to be particularly good, and making the main point sound like:, because it is not JDM, it is crap.
If you had a bad experience with the intake then fine, define the problems and discuss how the design of the product contributed to your issues. If you think they are cheap products, then discuss the workmanship of the parts and cite issues about it.
I may be wrong about liking my V2, I need your information to help me understand the product I purchased. If needed I can certainly fill up a page or so about what I feel are the benefits of the V2 and how it is a quality product at a good price compared to the high dollar JDM giants like J's Racing, Spoon, and ARC
I am not busting balls here, I just want (and I am sure the original author of this thread does too) concise commentary on a variety of products, not "_______sucks" and "___________ = crap" without any supporting comments to back them up.
No flaming intended
I folowed that thread and those points are well taken but bogging the engine may be a by-product of many factors. My car is literally 2 inches off the ground and I have driven through all of the rain this year in the tampa area which has been super heavy and I have not had any problems.
I have noticed the vtec bogging you describe but it has been when the engine has been cold or just warmend up after sitting overnight or longer. It happend in all types of weather but most often during high humidity and heat.
Your thoughts and views about the V2 are valid so I am glad Dave got a chance to hear your take on it.
I have noticed the vtec bogging you describe but it has been when the engine has been cold or just warmend up after sitting overnight or longer. It happend in all types of weather but most often during high humidity and heat.
Your thoughts and views about the V2 are valid so I am glad Dave got a chance to hear your take on it.
I've been on this site for more than 4 years now and on my second S2000, I think I know to warm up to 3 bars before VTEC'ing. That is not the bog that I am describing, although similar. It is not due to heat soak either because that normally happens at a much lower RPM and you can push through it. This was like hitting an imaginery wall of air. In an instant, it went from 5500 to 500 RPMs. In the first incident, the bog occured at 4000, then 5000, then 6500, then 8000. And yes I checked, everytime this happened I was at 3 bars.
After the bogging occurred, I removed the moist filter, noticed a wet intake pipe, removed the lower intake pipe and poured out 1/4 of a cup of water from it. Using towels and a blow dryer, I dried everything up, reinstalled the pipe and a new filter and it was running good again.
You may not have had problems yet and thats good. But I know many that have. In South FL alone, several with AEM have hydrolocked their S2000's in the past month. By just having the car sit out in rain or driving in light rain can and will cause problems. Its being documented in various threads that the filter sits directly above the drainage holes. When parked in rain, the water drains right onto the filter and collects in the pipe. In my first incident, light rain caused my problems. With all the supposed money AEM used in research and development, why doesn't the V2 work with a bypass valve? Why was the elbow designed at an upward angle so its easier to collect water? Why place the filter directly below the drain holes?
Yes I am a JDM whore/fanboi and I can't wait to replace my AEM with a real intake from Japan.
After the bogging occurred, I removed the moist filter, noticed a wet intake pipe, removed the lower intake pipe and poured out 1/4 of a cup of water from it. Using towels and a blow dryer, I dried everything up, reinstalled the pipe and a new filter and it was running good again.
You may not have had problems yet and thats good. But I know many that have. In South FL alone, several with AEM have hydrolocked their S2000's in the past month. By just having the car sit out in rain or driving in light rain can and will cause problems. Its being documented in various threads that the filter sits directly above the drainage holes. When parked in rain, the water drains right onto the filter and collects in the pipe. In my first incident, light rain caused my problems. With all the supposed money AEM used in research and development, why doesn't the V2 work with a bypass valve? Why was the elbow designed at an upward angle so its easier to collect water? Why place the filter directly below the drain holes?
Yes I am a JDM whore/fanboi and I can't wait to replace my AEM with a real intake from Japan.
Well, it seems that everyone who owns the V2 likes it but I definitely don't want any hydrolocking. This seems to be the main problem that you don't like about it. Can it be remedied by plugging or redirecting the drainage hole and using an umbrella as described in the thread you provided?
Although the drainage holes are a problem that can be remendied by plugging them or using an umbrella or both, I firmly believe that light rain can and will lead to hydrolock. This is what occurred on my first incident. It was raining lightly, not even enough to flood the streets, yet my car was bogging most likely due to having water in my intake pipe. I was speaking to another member last night and he told me about his bogging issues due to AEM.
If you decide to get the V2 despite the problems, I hope your S2000 is your weekend/second car. You'll have to check the weather constantly and if it rains, go home or a covered place immediately, remove, drain and dry the filter and lower pipe.
IMO all that is not worth it. You can get a PRM or Comptech for slightly more and have a much better intake that you will never have to worry about hydrolocking.
If you decide to get the V2 despite the problems, I hope your S2000 is your weekend/second car. You'll have to check the weather constantly and if it rains, go home or a covered place immediately, remove, drain and dry the filter and lower pipe.
IMO all that is not worth it. You can get a PRM or Comptech for slightly more and have a much better intake that you will never have to worry about hydrolocking.
Originally Posted by mav,Aug 19 2005, 08:04 AM
You can get a PRM or Comptech for slightly more and have a much better intake that you will never have to worry about hydrolocking.
Originally Posted by LBSypher,Aug 19 2005, 10:03 AM
Bear in mind, the PRM is not a cold air intake if that is what you are looking for Dave.
But I do have the "elephant nose" running up near it to help get "cold" air into the vacinity of the PRM's horn. I need to take some newer pictures as a comparison. Comptech is great stuff too. Different look, different growl, but very nice.
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