what does F stand for?
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what does F stand for?
http://www.lexus.com/isf/
5ltr V8
416hp
371lb/ft torque (0-60 4.6sec)
8 speed transmission
6pot/14.2" Front brakes
2pot/13.6" Rear brakes
mmmm ... what a car.
i'm too scared to look at the price
5ltr V8
416hp
371lb/ft torque (0-60 4.6sec)
8 speed transmission
6pot/14.2" Front brakes
2pot/13.6" Rear brakes
mmmm ... what a car.
i'm too scared to look at the price
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Do I get to take a nap during the 8 gears?
And the blue makes it look way better than the ivory.
Check out that video of "unrestrained", the car looks very unnatural while it is drifting.
And the blue makes it look way better than the ivory.
Check out that video of "unrestrained", the car looks very unnatural while it is drifting.
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In my opinion, this is not a good looking car at all. The car clearly was not designed to accommodate the V8 engine because it appears like the front subframe was lengthened to shoe-horn that lump under the hood. The F logo on the front wing is situated where it is to break up the vast expanse of metal around the rear of the front wheel well. The front overhang is huge, so much so that it creates a distorted balance to the car. From the profile, it is hard to figure out whether the car is rear or front wheel drive. The proportion of this part of the car reminds me of a lot of Audi products--even the R8--and I do not mean that as a compliment. The whole car has a somewhat aftermarket look to it, a criticism leveled against one of its chief competitors, the Merc C-class AMG 63. I also think that that the rear exhaust pipes look like something that did not come out quite right on a SEMA design special.
I am sure that the interior is well crafted and made of high quality materials. But at least in these pics, the interior looks like the shade of grey that GM has finally discarded. I still come back to saying that most dash boards look best when covered in a dark black material. There is nothing about this interior that would make me want to select it over an Audi or even a BMW. I frankly feel this is a step backward for Lexus, even compared to lesser IS 250s and IS 350s which I thought were as good as, if not better than, BMW's 3 Series interiors. Lastly, the blue hue to the instruments looks a touch cold, not at all techno nor urbane. VW has demonstrated that blue works well for the major instruments but with the accessory lighting with dark red LEDs.
I am sure that the interior is well crafted and made of high quality materials. But at least in these pics, the interior looks like the shade of grey that GM has finally discarded. I still come back to saying that most dash boards look best when covered in a dark black material. There is nothing about this interior that would make me want to select it over an Audi or even a BMW. I frankly feel this is a step backward for Lexus, even compared to lesser IS 250s and IS 350s which I thought were as good as, if not better than, BMW's 3 Series interiors. Lastly, the blue hue to the instruments looks a touch cold, not at all techno nor urbane. VW has demonstrated that blue works well for the major instruments but with the accessory lighting with dark red LEDs.
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Originally Posted by PrimoGen,Jan 24 2008, 08:17 AM
its better looking than ANY of those Bimmers coming out.
I would rock that
I would rock that
i took back my deposit on the 135i for a number of practical reasons ... but, styling was sure one of them. I probably won't buy an ISF ... i'm gonna find a nice, low mileage, IS350. They are not as fast ... but, fast enough for a 4door IMO. Oh, and i think they do look better.
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Originally Posted by triman54,Jan 24 2008, 08:16 AM
In my opinion, this is not a good looking car at all. The car clearly was not designed to accommodate the V8 engine because it appears like the front subframe was lengthened to shoe-horn that lump under the hood. The F logo on the front wing is situated where it is to break up the vast expanse of metal around the rear of the front wheel well. The front overhang is huge, so much so that it creates a distorted balance to the car. From the profile, it is hard to figure out whether the car is rear or front wheel drive. The proportion of this part of the car reminds me of a lot of Audi products--even the R8--and I do not mean that as a compliment. The whole car has a somewhat aftermarket look to it, a criticism leveled against one of its chief competitors, the Merc C-class AMG 63. I also think that that the rear exhaust pipes look like something that did not come out quite right on a SEMA design special.
I am sure that the interior is well crafted and made of high quality materials. But at least in these pics, the interior looks like the shade of grey that GM has finally discarded. I still come back to saying that most dash boards look best when covered in a dark black material. There is nothing about this interior that would make me want to select it over an Audi or even a BMW. I frankly feel this is a step backward for Lexus, even compared to lesser IS 250s and IS 350s which I thought were as good as, if not better than, BMW's 3 Series interiors. Lastly, the blue hue to the instruments looks a touch cold, not at all techno nor urbane. VW has demonstrated that blue works well for the major instruments but with the accessory lighting with dark red LEDs.
I am sure that the interior is well crafted and made of high quality materials. But at least in these pics, the interior looks like the shade of grey that GM has finally discarded. I still come back to saying that most dash boards look best when covered in a dark black material. There is nothing about this interior that would make me want to select it over an Audi or even a BMW. I frankly feel this is a step backward for Lexus, even compared to lesser IS 250s and IS 350s which I thought were as good as, if not better than, BMW's 3 Series interiors. Lastly, the blue hue to the instruments looks a touch cold, not at all techno nor urbane. VW has demonstrated that blue works well for the major instruments but with the accessory lighting with dark red LEDs.
I love it.
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i was under the impression that when you compare the ISF and M3 Sedan with nearly identical features ... the ISF was cheaper? Maybe i was talking to the wrong salesman (but, he was a BMW guy 
)
But ... in the end i still think BMW needs to revert back to a more 'classic' style. They haven't been well received by even BMW enthusiasts in the last 3 or 4 years with the new styling cues. The new 3series is just not as exciting as the E46's to me. Again ... it's just my opinion ... and you know that ain't worth crap!
Seriously ... i would rather have this:
than this:
notice how i didn't even show the rear of the new 7series
I just think that whoever made that new rear end should be shot. Most critics even said that it would take time ... but, we would all learn to love. I guess i'm stupid then cuz i haven't learned a thing!
)But ... in the end i still think BMW needs to revert back to a more 'classic' style. They haven't been well received by even BMW enthusiasts in the last 3 or 4 years with the new styling cues. The new 3series is just not as exciting as the E46's to me. Again ... it's just my opinion ... and you know that ain't worth crap!
Seriously ... i would rather have this:
than this:
notice how i didn't even show the rear of the new 7series
I just think that whoever made that new rear end should be shot. Most critics even said that it would take time ... but, we would all learn to love. I guess i'm stupid then cuz i haven't learned a thing!