Also, as a general rule of thumb, although your first instinct will be to rapidly let off the gas, this is not a very good idea. If the car's rear is stepping out, it is because it doesn't have enough traction. Abruptly lifting on the throttle can cause a forward weight transfer and unload the rear even more, exacerbating the problem and no doubt causing quite a pucker situation. It's why they tell you not to lift mid-turn.

Learn to be gentle with the throttle in these situations, and learn to countersteer. And learn to do these things either at a track, or far, far away from me

 

Come on Goggle, how do you spell lobatomy ... labotomy ... lobotomy? OK, I've got it now, send in the first patient.

 

Exactly what I've been trying to teach my dog, but he doesn't get it either.

 

Lucky you did not rotate off the road with your panic lift.

 

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=341201


You want to be "assertive"? Stay off public roads: an AutoX costs $30 and a HPDE costs $195 and you will learn more in a single day with either of these than you ever will pushing it on public roads.

 

hey xviper! if you're doing the surgery personally i might just go for it...

 

[QUOTE=ElTianti,Nov 30 2005, 09:01 AM]Sure some old men and pussies will tell you to do Auto-X or track days, but what to those fags know? If you

 

I too have a few questions about driving an S. I come from performance non independent rear suspension FWD land (aka VW), and I am used to the rear wheel lifting off the ground under hard cornering before it ever starts to fishtail.. I drove an S2k, my 1st RWD car, the other day and now I'm set on owning one. I plan to take a course and mess around in a parking lot, but seeing as I will be daily driving it through winter (on snows of course), I'll be driving like a wuss for the next 3 months. I will definitely not be pushing it at all and have an accident on the 1st freaking day.

Anyway, I spun an AWD Audi S4 out on the highway pushing it too hard through a corner and I bashed into a cement barrier. I didn't take enough time to learn the car (+ crappy tires) and it bit me straight in the ass.. all that is behind me and I plan to take my time to learn how to drive the S before I push it.

I've read a decent amount on driving RWD/S. What I gather (please comment):
- do not shift/let up on the gas during a turn as the weight transfer to the rear wheels acheived under throttle will be removed, causing a loss of traction on the rear wheels..

-Don't push too hard through a corner (my mistake on the S4), as the rear wheels are being driven in a different direction than the front turning wheels. This combined with increased stress on lateral friction to hold the car in line on a fast corner will cause the rear to spin out.

- don't break during a hard turn because 1) weight transfer, and 2) (I am inferring this myself) breaks are biased towards the front (or is this only on FWD/AWD cars?) and breaking will cause the rear wheels to maintain momentum longer, thus peopelling them outward away from the turn.

I understand the need to control the throttle through the turn to maintain traction, I am just not sure how exactly to do so.

So my questions are:

Has anyone lost control of their S under normal highway driving? Say 70-75MPH in dry conditions on a 120 to 150