Toda Just announced their F20C

https://motor-fan.jp/weboption/article/15343/.

I wonder how this matches up to the J's and Spoon Engines

 

I thought Toda was producing engines years ago? was I dreaming?

Also, with the difficulty in rebuilding these engines due to the FRM cylinder walls what options exist for the F20c now that Honda isn't producing bottom ends at this point? Do we have any options less than the $16k and a year long wait from Spoon Sports?

 

Yep, Kswap Cheaper, reliable and cheap replacement engines. Oh and better tq delivery. F this $16k nonsense lol

 

16k? try 24k for the toda

 

Yeah I just do not get that. I mean, even built, what is the capability comparison between that and a built K24? I guess maybe some still want to keep the "original" motor but if you are modifying and building the motor none of that means anything. I have not looked into the power handling of these built versions vs a k24, but you can also replace said k24 for a fraction of the F20 if you blow it up, which you will eventually if doing huge builds

 

https://toda-racing.co.jp/en/product...comp-f20c.html

 

It is 24k for new engine and 18k if you provide a core.

It isn't just an F20C though it is built to 2350cc

 

You mean their "F24C"
Looks epic. Such a long stroke 99mm with just a 1mm oversized bore (87mm). 8 grand max rpm as a result. Would probably hit that all day long without issue. Toda is hardcore!

J's and Spoon both build their engines using Toda rotating parts as far as I know. Would love to see how this Toda unit compares.

 

That is super expensive. You could a whole S2K for that money and a clean one too.