2011 Track Junkie Thread
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From: ATL
^I had never looked at any of those. I didn't realize a new one could be had for cheap. That just might make it very doable. I don't really care if it doesn't look great because it would only be in the car for a track day.
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Oleg, your wing is so big that it will be easy to generate excessive down force & drag. Just eyeballing your wing setting in the picture it looks like you have quite a bit extra angle on the wing. Look at where the fast guys run their APR-200s and you'll see them almost flat so your larger wing (with a lot more wing out in the clean air to the sides of the car) will need a little less angle than a 200.
When you start to get into excessive rear wing down force the rear will be rock solid and you'll really like how it feels and it's hard to tell if you have just a little too much down force or a lot. The resulting high speed under steer is easy to deal with, feather the throttle, transfer some weight to the front and problem solved but most people will be faster with a more balanced car. The more skilled you become as a driver the faster you'll go with a balanced or even loose car.
As you know, the best way to set the wing is to time some laps, come into the hot pits and have a helper move the wing (and record the setting) and go back out, rinse, repeat... until you find your best lap time. The setting will be track specific but close enough for most tracks (Shenandoah would need more wing due to more corners and lower speeds than Summit Main).
When you start to get into excessive rear wing down force the rear will be rock solid and you'll really like how it feels and it's hard to tell if you have just a little too much down force or a lot. The resulting high speed under steer is easy to deal with, feather the throttle, transfer some weight to the front and problem solved but most people will be faster with a more balanced car. The more skilled you become as a driver the faster you'll go with a balanced or even loose car.
As you know, the best way to set the wing is to time some laps, come into the hot pits and have a helper move the wing (and record the setting) and go back out, rinse, repeat... until you find your best lap time. The setting will be track specific but close enough for most tracks (Shenandoah would need more wing due to more corners and lower speeds than Summit Main).
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From: ATL
I'm not terribly concerned about shipping cost. If I can get a good one for under $400 shipped then that's not bad at all. I do want a passenger seat though that is as large as possible. The sparco sprint is fairly narrow if I recall.
How do most of you guys that track the car think in regards to passenger seat? It's whatever size you get and instructor just has to deal with it?
How do most of you guys that track the car think in regards to passenger seat? It's whatever size you get and instructor just has to deal with it?
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From: West Virginia
Any reason none of you other guys are running the 300 wing? Just cost? Sanctions in racing/TT?
For me running NASA PTB and SCCA ITE the wing cannot extend beyond the edge of the car (side or rear) so the GTC-300 is not legal. With the GTC-200 I have to remove the extended risers and custom end plates to satisfy this rule. The NASA time trial rules are the same.
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^Just curious if custom risers are allowed? I'd imagine you could get the GTC200 back up higher with some risers that site more upright. I think the APR risers have more rearward angle than the risers I see for most other s2000 wings.
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From: High Knob Mountain
Some of these may not fit, I think my Miata has more room for seats than the S2000 did.
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//Steve\\ haunt EBAY for seats. I over the last few months picked up two mint Sparco EVO Ls. I paid 425.00 for one that included sidemount brackets and a hardly used Sparco 5 point harness. I paid 355.00 for the second. It also came with sidemounts. If you are patient the deals are out there.
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Just curious if custom risers are allowed?