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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sp0nger
Originally Posted by yeaitsahonda' timestamp='1459685619' post='23926670
I would say if you bought the car specifically to do track days to go ahead and buy the roll bar. Then you don't have to worry about what track you can go to and with what organizations.

Originally Posted by FrostyWinters
2 - 3 track events a year is enough to warrant a roll bar install, instead of contacting every event organizer and track to ask clarification on stock roll hoops. Hard Dog bars can be installed by yourself, although I had Piper installed it for me. If you want a roll bar that can eventually scaled up to a full cage, just contact Piper and ask them to do a custom bar for you. If I were to get a cage done, Piper is the only place I'd go. Ask for Robbie or Mitch. Great guys doing excellent work.http://www.pipermotorsport.com/
Yeah sounds like I should just take care of it now so I don't have to worry. Do you all have your seats lowered/after market seats or do any of you run the stock seats? Just wondering if I am going to be under the bar at 5'10" with stock seats.

Thanks for the recommendation FrostyWinters, would you mind sharing with me a ball park of the price you paid?
My Hard Dog bar was installed about 5 years ago. IIRC the labor was about $850 at the time, but that included changing the brake pads, flushing and bleeding the brake system and the bar installation. Send an email to Piper and get in touch with Robbie/Mitch for an up-to-date estimate.

Talking about seats, I also had Piper install my Sparco seats in Jan. Piper fabricated custom seat bases and mounted the Sparco side mounts on them. The driver's side seat feels like it's about 1 to 1.5" lower than stock. If you go back a few pages you can see my car with the seats installed.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by yeaitsahonda
Quick question for everybody- my car is grinding slightly shifting to 4th whenever I have the car loaded in a slight right hand turn. There are two spots on this track where this happens. Kevin mentioned that his Ingalls torque damper thing would help this. In my effort to keep the car stock enough that my wife will still drive it everyday I really want to avoid putting aftermarket engine mounts in. I do need to check the stock mounts though. Any other opinions on the torque dampers?
I'm not sure an ETD will help prevent the slight grind, but it will definitely help the drivetrain feel a little more planted. I have an Ingalls and like it. For the money you definitely can't beat it. I'd definitely take a look at your mounts Dave if you got some mileage on the car as they are probably on their way out as well. Here are some cheaper aftermarket OEM replacement ones for a lot cheaper than OEM honda engine mounts: http://www.amazon.com/DEA-A4564-Fron.../dp/B008JPYT0U

If you wanted to keep it stock like for the street the ETD is a great option.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 08:06 AM
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Sp0nger,

I'm on the upper side of 5'9" and fit with stock seats and a rockstar bar. I would definitely mention that it really depends on your torso length though and wearing a helmet I'm close. As for the install, I did the entire thing myself with the exception of my wife holding the top wrench in place while I tightened the bolts/nuts on the bottom.

As for seats, I upgraded to Corbeau FX-1 Pros a couple years ago on buddy club rails. If I did it again, I would pick something like the PCI regular or slider mounts. They will fit better and they have attachment points for your submarine straps so you don't have to drill the floorboard for them.

I will say nothing but good things about the Corbeaus though. The barely graze the door cards, aren't too wide for the interior at the base, are upholstered in good quality fabric, and hold great while still being wide enough for someone with a 36" waist (down to 34" now). If FIA certification isn't something you need, they're a great budget buy coming from a respected seat maker. Otherwise, get Pole Positions like everyone else - they fit the car and they fit most waists.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by duffman13
As for seats, I upgraded to Corbeau FX-1 Pros a couple years ago on buddy club rails. If I did it again, I would pick something like the PCI regular or slider mounts. They will fit better and they have attachment points for your submarine straps so you don't have to drill the floorboard for them.

I will say nothing but good things about the Corbeaus though. The barely graze the door cards, aren't too wide for the interior at the base, are upholstered in good quality fabric, and hold great while still being wide enough for someone with a 36" waist (down to 34" now). If FIA certification isn't something you need, they're a great budget buy coming from a respected seat maker. Otherwise, get Pole Positions like everyone else - they fit the car and they fit most waists.
I've been thinking about getting a seat and saw a review of the Corbeau FX-1 Pros.. So they fit without needing modification to the interior? Can you still open the center console as well? I've been looking for a good street/track seat for my car and the PP's are so pricey. How do you like the FX-1 Pros on the street? Are they comfy but not too roomy? I'm about 5'9" and 170-180lbs. A nice bolt in solution would be really nice without breaking the bank. Hopefully I'll see you at an event and I can check them out.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sp0nger
Hey Everyone,

Just bought my first s2000 a few months back (been a long time coming) and I have signed up for my first HPDE at VIR in May w/ NASA. I thought I would be good to go because NASA states the stock roll hoop on the s2000 is OK but I asked just to make sure and the response I got was that I would need to be 2" under the stock hoops. At 5'10" that is definitely not going to happen. After researching it looks like my only options are an after market seat to lower the siting position or getting a harddog roll bar. Can anyone who as run @ VIR w/ NASA elaborate with their experience on this issue? Are these my only options and what would you all recommend for someone who is just starting to get their feet wet? I hadn't planned on modifying the car until after a few events but I did buy this car specifically to get on the track as I would like to do 2-3 track days a year at tracks that are near me (VIR, Summit Point, Road Atlanta, etc)
Unfortunately VIR is very picky about roll bars because it is such a high speed track. You could put an OEM hardtop on it and hope nobody checks, but if you are new and have an instructor they might say something. It sucks :-/
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by yeaitsahonda
Lightning is a very fun track. I know everybody loves VIR (for good reason) but I'd encourage any of you that gets the chance to head up to Jersey. I had a blast yesterday even in the wet. Today is going to be dry but the wind is nuts so I think driving today will be a little bit of a task.

Quick question for everybody- my car is grinding slightly shifting to 4th whenever I have the car loaded in a slight right hand turn. There are two spots on this track where this happens. Kevin mentioned that his Ingalls torque damper thing would help this. In my effort to keep the car stock enough that my wife will still drive it everyday I really want to avoid putting aftermarket engine mounts in. I do need to check the stock mounts though. Any other opinions on the torque dampers?
Definitely check the stock mounts, they go pretty easily with hard driving. Most of the time they just leak out the fluid so you can't even tell by looking at them. but if you remove them they will be two pieces.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by goldenfri
Unfortunately VIR is very picky about roll bars because it is such a high speed track. You could put an OEM hardtop on it and hope nobody checks, but if you are new and have an instructor they might say something. It sucks :-/
If you're new to the track then that means you'll probably have an instructor ride along with you for a little while. In that case I'd say you can either Spring for the rollbar now (probably the wise thing), or wait till you've done enough events to be solo'd and not need an instructor. That's probably going to take a while and you'll be limited to only a few events. Since this is unlikely, the right thing to do is just suck it up and install a rollbar. Killing/hurting yourself is one thing, but someone else is a whole different level.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sp0nger
Originally Posted by yeaitsahonda' timestamp='1459685619' post='23926670
I would say if you bought the car specifically to do track days to go ahead and buy the roll bar. Then you don't have to worry about what track you can go to and with what organizations.

Originally Posted by FrostyWinters
2 - 3 track events a year is enough to warrant a roll bar install, instead of contacting every event organizer and track to ask clarification on stock roll hoops. Hard Dog bars can be installed by yourself, although I had Piper installed it for me. If you want a roll bar that can eventually scaled up to a full cage, just contact Piper and ask them to do a custom bar for you. If I were to get a cage done, Piper is the only place I'd go. Ask for Robbie or Mitch. Great guys doing excellent work.http://www.pipermotorsport.com/
Yeah sounds like I should just take care of it now so I don't have to worry. Do you all have your seats lowered/after market seats or do any of you run the stock seats? Just wondering if I am going to be under the bar at 5'10" with stock seats.

Thanks for the recommendation FrostyWinters, would you mind sharing with me a ball park of the price you paid?
It really depends if your height is more torso or more legs as to how well you will fit under the bar.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg
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Unfortunately VIR is very picky about roll bars because it is such a high speed track. You could put an OEM hardtop on it and hope nobody checks, but if you are new and have an instructor they might say something. It sucks :-/
If you're new to the track then that means you'll probably have an instructor ride along with you for a little while. In that case I'd say you can either Spring for the rollbar now (probably the wise thing), or wait till you've done enough events to be solo'd and not need an instructor. That's probably going to take a while and you'll be limited to only a few events. Since this is unlikely, the right thing to do is just suck it up and install a rollbar. Killing/hurting yourself is one thing, but someone else is a whole different level.
True, but how much you actually need a roll bar for beginner HPDE in a stock car is debatable, but shrug.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by goldenfri
True, but how much you actually need a roll bar for beginner HPDE in a stock car is debatable, but shrug.
That's true, but I'd say it also depends.. I've seen some auto-x guys come out and flying around since they have seat time, just not on a road course. Push a little too hard and in the wrong spot someplace like VIR, and it could be ugly. Also depends on the personality, some people are more cautious while others are reckless..
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