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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Default Door locks when I put in key in ignition,

Ok I had a Python alarm put in last year when I bought the car. When the weather got cold the door locks wouldn't work. no lock or unlock. They would work once I drove the car for awhile. My installler suggested that I should put in a peice that will bump up the amperage when I lock/unlock the doors. I believe its called a 451M. so far it seems to work fine except NOW when I get in the car and put the key in the ignition and not even turn the ignition on the doors lock by themselves. I thought maybe the alarm is doing this but I have a funny feeling that its the OEM keyless entry. What i'm going to try after work today is first unplug the alarm brain and see if it does it and if it doesn't then i'll have the alarm brain plugged into the bit reader and check it to see if this option turned itself on. If it still does this when I do inplug the alarm brain then I know that its the keyless entry acting up. Has this happened to anyone else??
Let me know ASAP. Thankyou
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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Fitzy, it sounds to me like something's wrong with your alarm install, and likely it was botched from the start. Frankly, your installer should fix this problem.

Good luck; no idea what the problem would be...
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Scott may be the only one here to help you but I agree. Take it back to the installer.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 04:30 AM
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not too sure if Scott would / should help here because it's an installer issue. The installer got paid to do the job not scott

BUT maybe this will help

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=69254
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:02 AM
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also i forgot to mention is that he unplugged the keyless entry module to tap into the unlock and lock wires. Would that have reset the keyless entry system to a default mode. i'm going into my work (where i got the alarm installed) and plug the brain of the alarm into a bit reader and see if anything got turned on. I would deff not say the alarm install was a botch install cause it was done by one of the guys that has been there for 5 years. he did a nice job wrapping everything in tape. the alarm works fine and the locks worked until it got cold. so he put in this 451m part and now the locks work fine except they lock as soon as the key is inserted into the ignition. the one question is does the S2k have that option to have the locks lock when the key is inserted into the ignition. i don't dare call honda they'll hurt me.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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Nope - it's an option in your aftermarket alarm (i think they use it so you don't get car jacked or something)
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Fitzy .

If you have the install manual you can just program them out via the Valet Switch . Should only take 10sec if you understand how the program sequence works .

Not sure why they need a 451m as it is just a pair of relays and does give a higher amp signal but should have not been needed in a Honda ,the 200ma signal the DEI alarm supply's should have been strong enough as they just trigger factory relays anyway . A poor ground could of been the problem thus thinking he needed relays to do the job .


Fitzy , do you still need to question why I don't believe in CC ???

I did not get into it any further on you last PM as It is not worth the argument unless you are a installer . But as I have mention I have my own method of doing things , and soldering is not one . I could solder everything as I do know the do's and don'ts and dangers associated with heat . Maybe if I have some time I can put together some pics of do's and don'ts of wire splicing . Thing with soldering is if the wire does not get hot enough you get what is called a cold solder joint and the connection fails . If you get it to hot the heat travels up the wire and unsolder itself from say the ignition switch or computer mod that runs that circuit .

Scotch Locks are another no no in the car .


Steve no problem , always like to help . Even though he did get a little offended by my CC comment in another post . But I understand he is just trying to get business the same as I and I am sure he is commissioned based . Only difference is I can 100% represent myself and what I am able to provide. He has to rely on others to make sure it is done correctly .
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 07:16 AM
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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actually i'm not commissioned based. I was not offended on your comments at all. .I like to hear what others have to say. Also the door locks worked just fine above like 50 degrees and then when it got to cold they wouldn't unlock and lock but the alarm shut off.
well what i ended up doing is having the door locks setup to unlock when i turn off the igntion. so now its the door locks lock when i put the ignition in then when i turn the ignition on it sends another signal to lock the door even tho they are already locked. then when i shut the ignition off the doors unlock. I'm happy with this. I did go to a couple of Honda dealers and one said he's never heard of programming the OEM keyless entry and the other said something about a HDS?? I'm going to look in my chiltons for the fun of it.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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I was not talking about programing the factory keyless . I was talking about the DEI alarm .

Your title to your PM came across like it offended " So you have something to say ?? "

Sorry if I took it wrong .

Normally temp has to do with connections or poor ground ( should be grounded in the kick and not to dash components) . Like I said there are relays to drive the doorlocks factory . They only require 200ma to drive them .

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