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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kenta,Oct 21 2009, 11:02 AM
Actually that statement is incorrect. Opening the laptop and servicing it yourself, or bringing it to a non-apple certified repair person does not void the warranty.
This page lead me to believe otherwise, but even if it's fine... unscrewing a laptop to replace a battery seems a little backwards to me.

http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=3580&p=3

I really wish they just kept the unibody MacBook the way it was. I didn't like other things, like dropping the ExpressCard either. If they left it alone, I'd probably have bought it.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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My next laptop is going to be a Macbook Pro. Almost got one last month thru my bro when they had that student deal but he wasn't around. It's pricey but some of that goes to better software.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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With regards to upgradability I'm starting to think it's moot.

I've found with laptops, after about 3-4 years it's time to ditch what you've got and start new. The speed of processors increases steadily, and as of late it's really multiple cores that are adding the benefits (not bumps in Mhz or transistor counts). With laptops any major CPU change basically requires getting a whole new machine. Battery technology is getting better every year, I'd like to think that by the time I go to upgrade my current laptop we might have 10-12 hour battery life. I would also hope that SSD will be cost effective enough to replace a regular HD.

Even with my desktop machines if you want to upgrade, often a new CPU will require a new Motherboard. Then you'll realize that whatever ram you have is now too slow or incompatible and you'll basically need a new video card too. By the time you add it all up for just a bit more you can get a brand new machine and repurpose the old box (give it to the kids, donate it, etc).



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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by kenta,Oct 21 2009, 10:47 AM
With regards to upgradability I'm starting to think it's moot.

I've found with laptops, after about 3-4 years it's time to ditch what you've got and start new. The speed of processors increases steadily, and as of late it's really multiple cores that are adding the benefits (not bumps in Mhz or transistor counts). With laptops any major CPU change basically requires getting a whole new machine. Battery technology is getting better every year, I'd like to think that by the time I go to upgrade my current laptop we might have 10-12 hour battery life. I would also hope that SSD will be cost effective enough to replace a regular HD.

Even with my desktop machines if you want to upgrade, often a new CPU will require a new Motherboard. Then you'll realize that whatever ram you have is now too slow or incompatible and you'll basically need a new video card too. By the time you add it all up for just a bit more you can get a brand new machine and repurpose the old box (give it to the kids, donate it, etc).
EXACTLY! And the cost to upgrade is usually 75% of the cost of a new notebook, so why bother? I have upgraded my PCs a couple of times in the past. Once I was done buying everything and added up the cost, I realized I could have got a new one for a bit more. I don;t think you need to upgrade Macs as often as PCs anyway. We keep our PCs for 4 to 8 years as it is. With a Mac, I'm guessing we'd keep them for 10 years.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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ten years

i disagree
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bass,Oct 21 2009, 08:28 AM
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Bill don't think of computers as an appliance but rather your S2000 - it will run forever as long as you change the oil there's no need to mod it or upgrade unless you want extras


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Nope. The S is awesome. Computers suck. I like your comparisson of a kids bike and a motorcycle. I'm fine with the never fail bike. If computer wonks have an image of themselves flying through time and space on a PC, good luck to them. I just see nerds banging on keyboards. Leaving that aside, I think the Mac has easily caught up to the PC in what it can do. In fact, in some areas it blows the PC away.

And let's face it, the Mac commercials are way better than the PC commercials, so that means Mac wins!!!
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bass,Oct 21 2009, 02:38 PM
ten years

i disagree
Really? Barbara's desktop is a 2002 model. She has used it for seven years already. Why wouldn't an iMac go for 10?
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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It all comes down to personal preference in the end



I have not found anything other than tuning that I need a PC over a mac for . I have a HP that I bought before the MAC that will be getting wiped again , Giles just did it a month ago and the drivers are all messed up . So now we are going to try Windows 7 on it ... I think it is funny how much 7 takes from OSX


I used to run Parralles and both OS's before . Now I run just the one on the MAC . Rather not have this machine in the garage ..
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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[QUOTE=Legal Bill,Oct 21 2009, 03:41 PM] Really?
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Legal Bill,Oct 21 2009, 03:41 PM
Really? Barbara's desktop is a 2002 model. She has used it for seven years already. Why wouldn't an iMac go for 10?
i guess Microsoft is selling to us less affluient folks
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