Ancient Alien Theory
Like a lot of "theories" that can never be proven, much of the "ancient alines" stuff is purely made-up. There is no ancient radioactive ash in India, just as an example. People repeat these fantasy stories as "truth" because it makes them feel special or something.
I don't know where the idea that humanity could not have done anything on it's own prior to ~1963, but I'm guessing it was something an alien said :/
I just find it remarkable that anyone would insist that "aliens from outer space" were on earth and left all these mysterious clues but no clear, incontrovertable evidence. If you are going to buy the idea of "aliens from outer space," why stop there? We all know vampires and werewolves are strong, couldn't they have built the pyramids? Isn't it logical that with the help of fairies the ancient Celts would have no problems moving massive stones to build Stonehenge, therefore fairies helped build Stonehenge?
I don't know where the idea that humanity could not have done anything on it's own prior to ~1963, but I'm guessing it was something an alien said :/
I just find it remarkable that anyone would insist that "aliens from outer space" were on earth and left all these mysterious clues but no clear, incontrovertable evidence. If you are going to buy the idea of "aliens from outer space," why stop there? We all know vampires and werewolves are strong, couldn't they have built the pyramids? Isn't it logical that with the help of fairies the ancient Celts would have no problems moving massive stones to build Stonehenge, therefore fairies helped build Stonehenge?
Besides that story, they are many many others from all around the globe and from all different cultures. There are numerous things that defy logic. By throwing in stuff about vampires and werewolves just shows that you are closed minded to anything outside of your comfort zone.
Statistically, the chances that there are other advanced beings in the universe is certain. If the universe is around 13 billion years old, chances are that some of those civiliations could have advanced enough to travel through space. Earth is a literally a living and breathing planet, why would advanced civiliations not want to visit and study Earth?
Statistically, the chances that there are other advanced beings in the universe is certain. If the universe is around 13 billion years old, chances are that some of those civiliations could have advanced enough to travel through space. Earth is a literally a living and breathing planet, why would advanced civiliations not want to visit and study Earth?
You combine that time before the development of advanced beings, with the amount of time needed to make an intra-galactic trip, let alone an inter-galactic trip, which also necessitates a large expanse of time to develop the technology to make these trips, and your certainty is beginning to dwindle into questionable territory....
Let's look at it this way.
In order for intelligent life to know that WE are intelligent, and in order for them to want to come visit, they would need some evidence of our existence - say, if they have extremely advanced telescopes, they might see our lights on the otherwise dark side of our planet. Keeping this in mind, assuming they left immediately, and assuming they had light speed travel capabilities, they wouldn't even be here yet unless they were coming from one of the closest systems to our planet. We've only been lighting up our night sky to a really visible degree for a short while, all things considered. Even if you assume they started as soon as we started looking like humans, possibly tool-using animals, they'd have to be from our galaxy at the very least. Looking at the size of the universe and saying "oh there HAS to be intelligent life out there!" is fine. I agree, with an infinite universe it's quite probable. However, thinking that intelligent life has visited us requires a bunch of rather improbable assumptions
-this intelligent life developed VERY NEAR us, not just somewhere billions of light years away
-they pointed their handy telescopes at us, and noticed us
-they cared enough to come check us out
-they had light speed capability (or close to it) at the time
oh and finally
-they do all of their visiting in almost total secrecy
Buying into even one of those assumptions is a stretch...all of them...?
Oh, sorry, one more thing. You can toss all those above and instead assume that everything we know or have theorized about space and time is complete bullshit. I don't buy in on that assumption either, personally.
In order for intelligent life to know that WE are intelligent, and in order for them to want to come visit, they would need some evidence of our existence - say, if they have extremely advanced telescopes, they might see our lights on the otherwise dark side of our planet. Keeping this in mind, assuming they left immediately, and assuming they had light speed travel capabilities, they wouldn't even be here yet unless they were coming from one of the closest systems to our planet. We've only been lighting up our night sky to a really visible degree for a short while, all things considered. Even if you assume they started as soon as we started looking like humans, possibly tool-using animals, they'd have to be from our galaxy at the very least. Looking at the size of the universe and saying "oh there HAS to be intelligent life out there!" is fine. I agree, with an infinite universe it's quite probable. However, thinking that intelligent life has visited us requires a bunch of rather improbable assumptions
-this intelligent life developed VERY NEAR us, not just somewhere billions of light years away
-they pointed their handy telescopes at us, and noticed us
-they cared enough to come check us out
-they had light speed capability (or close to it) at the time
oh and finally
-they do all of their visiting in almost total secrecy
Buying into even one of those assumptions is a stretch...all of them...?

Oh, sorry, one more thing. You can toss all those above and instead assume that everything we know or have theorized about space and time is complete bullshit. I don't buy in on that assumption either, personally.
Originally Posted by North Star' timestamp='1317831914' post='21041977
Statistically, the chances that there are other advanced beings in the universe is certain. If the universe is around 13 billion years old, chances are that some of those civiliations could have advanced enough to travel through space. Earth is a literally a living and breathing planet, why would advanced civiliations not want to visit and study Earth?
You combine that time before the development of advanced beings, with the amount of time needed to make an intra-galactic trip, let alone an inter-galactic trip, which also necessitates a large expanse of time to develop the technology to make these trips, and your certainty is beginning to dwindle into questionable territory....
All I am saying is that there is a lot of unexplained things in our history that is fascinating. Some so intriguing that we can't even figure it out with our current technology. If an ancient civilization is doing things way back then that we can't figure out how to do now, something has to be hidden that we don't know.
That's essentially saying that all things are evolving or advancing at the same rate as on Earth. That argument has things going for it but still falls flat. The thing is, we don't know what is out there beyond our solar system. Our understanding is limited to what we have acheived so far. There is no reason why another civilization cannot be thousands if not millions of years up on us on technology. They may have already discovered how to overcome Einstein's universal speed limit to travel vast distances. Heck, we know that wormholes are possible ways to overcome that barrier, we just haven't developed the technology to use them yet.
All I am saying is that there is a lot of unexplained things in our history that is fascinating. Some so intriguing that we can't even figure it out with our current technology. If an ancient civilization is doing things way back then that we can't figure out how to do now, something has to be hidden that we don't know.
All I am saying is that there is a lot of unexplained things in our history that is fascinating. Some so intriguing that we can't even figure it out with our current technology. If an ancient civilization is doing things way back then that we can't figure out how to do now, something has to be hidden that we don't know.
Let's look at it this way.
In order for intelligent life to know that WE are intelligent, and in order for them to want to come visit, they would need some evidence of our existence - say, if they have extremely advanced telescopes, they might see our lights on the otherwise dark side of our planet. Keeping this in mind, assuming they left immediately, and assuming they had light speed travel capabilities, they wouldn't even be here yet unless they were coming from one of the closest systems to our planet. We've only been lighting up our night sky to a really visible degree for a short while, all things considered. Even if you assume they started as soon as we started looking like humans, possibly tool-using animals, they'd have to be from our galaxy at the very least. Looking at the size of the universe and saying "oh there HAS to be intelligent life out there!" is fine. I agree, with an infinite universe it's quite probable. However, thinking that intelligent life has visited us requires a bunch of rather improbable assumptions
-this intelligent life developed VERY NEAR us, not just somewhere billions of light years away
-they pointed their handy telescopes at us, and noticed us
-they cared enough to come check us out
-they had light speed capability (or close to it) at the time
oh and finally
-they do all of their visiting in almost total secrecy
Buying into even one of those assumptions is a stretch...all of them...?
Oh, sorry, one more thing. You can toss all those above and instead assume that everything we know or have theorized about space and time is complete bullshit. I don't buy in on that assumption either, personally.
In order for intelligent life to know that WE are intelligent, and in order for them to want to come visit, they would need some evidence of our existence - say, if they have extremely advanced telescopes, they might see our lights on the otherwise dark side of our planet. Keeping this in mind, assuming they left immediately, and assuming they had light speed travel capabilities, they wouldn't even be here yet unless they were coming from one of the closest systems to our planet. We've only been lighting up our night sky to a really visible degree for a short while, all things considered. Even if you assume they started as soon as we started looking like humans, possibly tool-using animals, they'd have to be from our galaxy at the very least. Looking at the size of the universe and saying "oh there HAS to be intelligent life out there!" is fine. I agree, with an infinite universe it's quite probable. However, thinking that intelligent life has visited us requires a bunch of rather improbable assumptions
-this intelligent life developed VERY NEAR us, not just somewhere billions of light years away
-they pointed their handy telescopes at us, and noticed us
-they cared enough to come check us out
-they had light speed capability (or close to it) at the time
oh and finally
-they do all of their visiting in almost total secrecy
Buying into even one of those assumptions is a stretch...all of them...?

Oh, sorry, one more thing. You can toss all those above and instead assume that everything we know or have theorized about space and time is complete bullshit. I don't buy in on that assumption either, personally.




