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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chuhsi,Feb 26 2009, 07:06 PM
anyone want to buy my krell audio cd player and radio receiver?
If I wanted something that icy, soulless and wallet-draining, I'd call my ex-girlfriend.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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i assume everyone in this thread is probably an audiophile heh?
well im not, but would love to be lol.

i was hopeing if you guys could help me out with a couple things
what would you say is the best External Soundcard thats compatible with leopard OSX for under $150 USD?
and im also looking for some very nice computer speakers with a subwoofer..for under 100 USD

any help?
im going to keep looking online. but i was hopeing some familiar people would be able to help
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Do you audiophiles buy certain kind of cds? Is there some sort of blueray of audio cds? I would buy good headphones like the denons mentioned, but if i had to get new music i wouldn't.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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Paradigm Studio 40 v.4's
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Do you audiophiles buy certain kind of cds? Is there some sort of blueray of audio cds? I would buy good headphones like the denons mentioned, but if i had to get new music i wouldn't.
there's not really a "Blu Ray" of audio CD's, but I believe SACD would be what a lot will go for. However SACD's overall are limited to a lot of classical and orchestra style music (although there are some albums out there like the Beatles, Pink Floyd, etc. available). Not so bad for me because I enjoy that type of music but you won't be hearing that waste of space Lil' Wayne on it any time soon.
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pdj,Feb 26 2009, 08:25 PM
Do you audiophiles buy certain kind of cds? Is there some sort of blueray of audio cds? I would buy good headphones like the denons mentioned, but if i had to get new music i wouldn't.
The best digital audio you can get comes in the form of DVD-A (dvd audio disks), SACD (super audio compact disks), and lossless digital audio that can be downloaded via services like iTunes, or I suggest Music Giants. And then of course there is your regular CD which also offers (typically) high quality audio. Just to give you an idea, a typical CD hold about 700 MB of audio data. The same album in an uncompressed state on a DVD-A disk may take up nearly 4.7 GB. So, yeah, you're gonna hear a difference.

The problem is that high quality equipment (such as the Denon AH-D5000's I'm buying) tends to make bad audio sound even worse. So if you put crap in, you're gonna get crap out. However, if you put good quality audio in (about 192 kbps or higher) it will be sweet sweet music to your ears.

My suggestion is this: If your audio is about 128 kbps or higher, most of it will sound okay. The higher the bit rate the better. You're in REALLY good shape if most of your stuff is 192kbps or higher. I would keep what you have, but from now on I would only purchase lossless audio when you want to buy new songs.

However, if you are the type of person that doesn't want to take the time/money to replace their crappy audio (lower bit rates), you're probably not the type that will appreciate what high quality equipment will do. So if you are this type of person, then you will only be throwing $450 down the drain by purchasing the AH-D5000's... and your crappy music will sound even more like crap.

Does this need any more clarification?
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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^I tend to download a lot of music via limewire. After reading your response, I went on itunes and checked what kbps some of my newer tracks had, and they were no less then 128kbps. Can you please explain (or give me a good link to check out) the relationship between the amount of audio data on a cd and the kbps? I love music and listen to all types of it, I would just like to listen the music I have in better quality/clarity. Some of the things that I want to achieve might not be cheap, but I want to know how to achieve them for future reference. Thanks for your help
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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flac baby, its all about the flac. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Lossless_Audio_Codec
Ive always had a preference for the sound of SACD over DVD-A, i think the only advantage of DVD-A are the multiple channels, something i dont really care about. not that it matters, i have about 4 SACD's vs. around 250 LP's.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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[QUOTE=pdj,Feb 26 2009, 09:20 PM] ^I tend to download a lot of music via limewire.
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by S2krazy2,Feb 27 2009, 03:40 AM
Older track on iTunes are 128kbps. Their new standard is Lossless at 192 kbps, and those are the tracks that I recommend purchasing. The problem with limewire is that bootleggers typically don't care what quality the tracks are.

When "ripping" your own CD's, I suggest ripping them at the highest bit rate possible if you are not worried about file size. The correlation between kbps and the amount of data on a CD is this:

The higher the bit rate of a song, the larger the file will be on disk. A song that is encoded at 256 kbps will take up roughly twice the amount of space on disk as the same song encoded at 128kbps. So when you start putting high quality audio tracks on a CD the available space fills up quickly. When you have VERY high quality audio (such as a lossless studio remaster with multi channel audio, like the "Dark Side of the Moon" album I just got) you wont fit more than one or two tracks on a typical CD. So that is where SACD and DVD-A come in. A DVD-A disk can store almost 7 times the amount of data as a regular CD. Some SACD's can store over 11 times as much data as a regular CD. The more space there is available on the disk, the more high quality audio can be stored on that disk.

I suggest reading these:

SACD
DVD-A
Audio Compression
Lossless Data Compression
Itunes has never sold tracks at a "lossless 192 kbps". You have to go a lot higher than 192 kbps to get lossless quality. They have either 128 kbps AAC tracks with DRM or 256 kbps AAC tracks without DRM. Neither is truly lossless.

Here is a comparison of a track that I have in my library that I imported from CD in both 256 kbps VBR mp3 and Apple lossless.

256 kbps VBR mp3: 7.1 MB
Apple Lossless (says it's 995 kbps): 29.3 MB
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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[QUOTE=wickerbill,Feb 27 2009, 05:08 AM] Itunes has never sold tracks at a "lossless 192 kbps".
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