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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:42 AM
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i'd be happy to donate some organ.. but only those who needed it.. not from drug abusement/alcoholic to ruin their organs..



so currently a no. you are born with good organs. if u go and do stupid stuff to wreck it.. u dont deserve it. except for natural diseases or that you were born with defects...

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by THEOLDMAN,Jul 14 2005, 04:16 PM
As you can tell this is a topic that is near and dear to me, so here is the NATIONAL ORGAN AND TISSUE REGISTRY Sign up website. This is the NATIONAL TRANSPLANT SOCIETY HOME PAGE
Thx for the link. Signed up tonight.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by steven975,Jul 18 2005, 01:52 AM
actually to donate a kidney now is not major surgery. only a few days in the hospital, and back to work in 2 weeks, if not sooner.

don't forget that many if not most kidney patients are poor and have no cash to pay you for a kidney. also it is not the government that controls this. It is UNOS (united network for organ sharing) that enforces these "no pay" policies.

I see their position and I see yours. I feel that freedoms should not be limited, but I also feel for those with little or no cash.
Actually the federal government as well as several if not all of the states have made it illegal to sell body parts. Those that are too poor to pay are paying somehow for the surgery, medicare/medicaid, medical insurance something. Now if we had a set price for the donor it wouldn't be any different than medicare/aid or an insurance company paying for anythig else. The surgery cost has to be far greater than 10k to the donor. Two weeks out of work and a few days in the hospital isn't worth 10k to me but migh be worth it for someone that is poor and needs that kind of cash. For that to be attractive to me I'd either have to know and love the person or I'd want at least 60-80k.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by S2000boi,Jul 18 2005, 03:42 AM
i'd be happy to donate some organ.. but only those who needed it.. not from drug abusement/alcoholic to ruin their organs..



so currently a no. you are born with good organs. if u go and do stupid stuff to wreck it.. u dont deserve it. except for natural diseases or that you were born with defects...


if there was a way to figure that out, i would be all for that for sure.

As an example....I think Larry Hagman (JR Ewing from the show DALLAS) was an alcoholic.... of course he needed a new Liver.... ya, well F-U-C-K you buddy..... if there is one left after we get done with everyone else, it's yours.

I am pretty sure he got one fairly quickly ($ talks somehow).
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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^ Its money, but also its exposure. The sad fact is, celebs getting organs increases awarness and more donors signs up. so, its a give and take.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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I am all for it. Tenblade, maybe you can clear this up, is it true that the harvesting hospital recieves a fee for the organs? Sort of a finders fee if you will? I think that the hopital should be able to cover the cost of extraction, but the rest should go to the donors family for expenses and whatnot.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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^exactly!

The hospitals don't have a problem making money of the organs but the system has a problem compensationg donors, which would increase the number of donors. Imagine being a donor and if your organs get used you get free funeral expenses and a few bucks goes to your loved ones to boot. How many more people would do it? How many more families wouldn't object!
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tenblade2001,Jul 17 2005, 10:10 PM
Steven have you spoken to family about being a living donor? Unmatched living donor kidneys do as goodr, even unmatched, than 6/6 matched cadavaric kidney.
good luck getting a kidney... take care.
yea, i'm aware of that and have many offers.

I have factor 5 liden; which basically means i have a higher tendency to clot. I tried one transplant already and it was unsuccessful. Given that I have a much higher than average chance of a transplant not working, I have decided against potentially wasting a loved one's organ.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by steven975,Jul 18 2005, 12:37 PM
yea, i'm aware of that and have many offers.

I have factor 5 liden; which basically means i have a higher tendency to clot. I tried one transplant already and it was unsuccessful. Given that I have a much higher than average chance of a transplant not working, I have decided against potentially wasting a loved one's organ.
Factor 5 Leiden.... I know all about that. So, are you taking Coumadin to help keep your access open? I did research on maintaing access patency i.e. surgical revision vs. thrombectomy /PTA (which is our standard here). We've shown that graft patency can be significantly increased i.e. longer use of the same access, if surgeons perform a thrombectomy and then PTA (angioplasty) the venous outlet stenosis).





Well, I'll say that pretty damn unselfish of you to wait for a cadavaric transplant. Again, I wish you the best.

As for the cost of recovering organs. Hospitals are not really involved; they simply provide the place i.e. the O.R. and tools, for the recovery. Of course, they charge for this. Now, there are 3rd party companies or entities that are in charge of approaching the family for recovery (so there's no conflict of interest). EVERYTHING that can used is taken i.e. heart, lungs, valves (if the heart is not usuable, the valves may be), skin (for making homograft...which is used to cover large areas on burn patients). These companies are non-profit.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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hehe, that surgery looks familiar.

They usually give fentanyl as the sedative for these vascular "decloggings". Of course, they didn't tell me it was fentanyl...I was on the 100mcg Duragesic patch for a year and a half (neuropathy pain) so I was awake and alert the entire surgery. I literally watched them do the whole surgery.

I've had to have a de-clogging once and a surgical revision once (they put the access upstream from a smaller, kinked vein). My access has been going strong for a while now as the vein in my arm is very thick (about 20mm or so). Yes, I take coumadin to ward off any potential clots.
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