Its is very much like this. If there is no financial incentive then there has to be some other form of pay off for investing time, and in cases like this its a sense of power over others, to dictate and make decisions that will be felt by others. Typically but not always, people that seek out and accept these positions of power have personal issues and usually dont have the best interest of others in mind, they are self motivated. Those of you know who you are, and the rest we appreciate your selfless efforts for community.
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LOL...I thought that might have been to subtle, guess not. I know a president of a HOA, he was a band geek, and could never get others to do as he wanted...but by George you better not paint your fence eggshell, the code says it has to be pale white. SMH. But at the same time his friends dog takes a dump every morning in the common area and it is not cleaned up...nothing ever happens.

 

So.... Is there going to be a vote to bring back Rosario?

 

Wow quite a sudden left turn in relative conversation. But to indulge you, I do feel compelled to shine light in dark places. Thats a roll I do take often, becuase its one thats needed. I see a void in those willing to take that roll on, or do it with much effectiveness anyway. If there is nothing worth mentioning, I won't mention it. As far as my comments above, related to people who take on roles of power without financial compensation, well... I dont think its a far leap to come to the stated conclusions I made. Life teaches you this if your paying attention to it.

We all have our rolls in life to play, and elements of that will usually trickle into anything we spend a significant amount of time with, which for many of us is this website. I'm hoping that it continues to be a good outlet for people to speak their minds without impedance. What does make this site good, is that it does have a wide scope of topics beyond s2000's, which from a business standpoint to internet brands does help the appeal to more people now and should in the future, but only if its managed right, in a way that makes people feel like they have the freedom to express themselves, without feeling like they have someone monitoring them. We have enough of that in thr real world and i think people generally come here as part of an escape from that.

 

I doubt it. They obviously don't care what anyone else thinks. I'm honestly surprised this thread is still here.

 

Here is the warning you get at the hotties section "This forum may contain imagery that some people may find offensive or which may be unacceptable for viewing from your location or situation (school, work, church, etc). If that might be a problem we ask that you leave now and return to the forum index and browse elsewhere on the site."

Here is the warning you get at the back lot section "Adult and mature off-topic subjects: sex, drugs and debauchery. No kids! Members 18 years of age and older only. NSFW You've been warned"

The status updates have no warning you load the main page BOOM status updates. Is that hard to grasp for you?

 

Put em in their place Vadster!

 

 

That's all I was attempting to do, was invite you into my little slice of my end of business.

We've never swept a ban under the rug (as far as I can remember). We have though, always kept it to the people involved: namely, the Moderation staff, and the person offending. It's never previously been open to comment. As I said, past practice and all that. . . and even if we were to entertain it, it's still more suited to the Admin section. . .

Sam's idea, was for us, for once, to be transparent as to why we did the ban. To that end, he lays it out in his first post without airing out all the laundry.

This is not the first time there's been wide or strong disagreement about a permanent ban. I earlier cited Mr. Eryozgatlian: the guy was a laugh and a half, had contributed heavily to the forum (RC threads and subforum, RIP). . . except when it came to a very select few on a very select topic. Similar to Rosie, stellar 90%+(+) of the time, but the other 5%-10% of the time, he was hell on wheels. He was eventually banned (and there was only a short-ish time from his warnings to his ban), and many demanded to know why. The Moderation staff, without specifying what, stated what Rule that was broken, we shrugged, and have kept going. Has The Back Lot suffered? Maybe. Had the RC threads suffered? Yes (you don't see 'em, but they were there).

Conversely, GroovyNeilNeil - his ban was exactly N-1 posts too late for me (personally),* but it wasn't his raison d'etre** that actually did him in. So, a case where everybody wanted him gone, but the annoyance had nothing to directly do with what got him banned. Sometimes, you warn somebody, and they can get nasty. While nobody wants him back, those of us who were there learned a very funny lesson about how one may react to warnings. As my predecessor would say, "You don't get banned, you ban yourself."

*I wasn't even a Moderator then, I just had more respect for my athlete's foot than him.
**He prided himself on his trolling, and plenty of people took the bait. There's still a loose trail of evidence around here. . .

 

Someone responded to his post, and, as usual, he evaded the post. Go back a couple of pages. And Vad, well, I understand you're situation and how you perceive things socially, so I ll back off as I have two nephews whom are the same.

But you do realize, the comments in the status updates aren't visible to guests right?

 

Its really very simple. Change it! Incorporate SU to be an open forum, an inclusive with adult warnings. That means 18years. Shouldn't weed out too many on this site, certainly only a very small minority, and lets face it, many of us have a hard time relating to anyone younger.

If the mods/admins are willing to give up a little bit of their power and start providing some poles, we can decide what would make the majority most inclusive here and happy with some more key aspects of this site. Allow the average member to take a little more ownership. If nothing else, this will help promote a more positive vibe and people in turn will be more apt to want to govern themselves a little more. IF thats the broader goal here?