Originally Posted by GOGOGO' date='Feb 10 2005, 03:58 PM

My ancestors fought for the right for all of us to be free, protected, and to travel about without restrictions and burdensome laws. The only way to ever protect those rights is the rights of the citizens to overthrow the government in the event it loses touch with the people. The only way you could ever overthrow a government is to be armed and capable of doing so. NEVER forget that the Germans, long before they started putting people in prison camps, started rounding up all the guns.. House to house searches, with no legal protections to stop them, they made sure that prior to "cleansing" they had to disarm the very people they planned to eliminate. That is how it starts, and NEVER let anyone tell you different. The pansy liberals that tout gun control don't have a friggen clue as to the importance of a people able to bare arms and protect life and property.

Originally Posted by BocaS2000' date='Feb 12 2005, 12:37 AM

Since many have added their view on carrying firearms, I might as well put in my 2 cents.

A father, mother, and their 12 year old daughter were eating lunch at KFC. Time was about 1pm, broad daylight. As they walked to their car in the parking lot, out of the bushes from 3 car spaces over came a very large male. He had a brick in his hand and started to beat the father in the head with a brick. The mother tried to get him off of her husband, so he hit her with the brick. The husband was on the ground with his head and face traumatized and was able to do nothing but bleed and moan. The daughter pleaded with the man not to kill her daddy. So he hit her with the brick. Then the man took the mothers purse and ran. This REAL / TRUE scenario occurred in less than 2 minutes and happened about 1 year ago in Miami.

The "man' was a "CRACK MONSTER" who simply wanted the $40 from the mother's purse that he saw her put in her purse while inside KFC. For about 2 weeks following this attack, the CRACK MONSTER repeated his tactics on other innocent victims before he was apprehended.

So what happened to that devastated family you ask? Well, the father is still partially paralyzed and can never have a normal life again, the mother has permanent scars, the daughter virtually lost her father who happened to be a grade school teacher; the sole provider for the family.

Had the father been properly trained in small arms and carrying at the time, he would likely have been able to change the outcome of events and have the ability to talk about it today. Sadly, he has lost the ability to speak, thanks to the CRACK MONSTER.

As for me, not only do I carry one of the finest handguns in the world today (GLOCK), but I feed it CORBON +P+ (aka: "proven stopping power"). Combined with my 15 years of military service (special operations) and law enforcement training (deputy sheriff), I , NOR MY FAMILY, WILL NOT BE A VICTIM OF A CRACK MONSTER!!

"Rather be judged by 12 of my peers as opposed to being victimized by 1"

Afterthought for fellow LAW ABIDING CWP / S2000 brethren. Sig is great, but a wet gun that requires regular maintenance. However, the best handgun for the individual is one that is most comfortable for that person and meets his/her needs.

Originally Posted by Trimmy' date='Feb 11 2005, 04:53 PM

That truly is a horrible story. But you have also argued for the anti-gun protestors, because imagine if that 'crack monster' had a gun.
Its horrible what happened, but if he had a gun he could have killed the family for the 40 bucks!

Again, I take no sides in any of your nations policies. So please no slating

Originally Posted by God' date='Feb 12 2005, 12:58 AM

given the event... Does it matter if he has a gun or a brick?

Also, it wouldn't be legal for him to have a gun whilst it is quite legal to carry a brick.

Originally Posted by Trimmy' date='Feb 11 2005, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Black Nugget' date='Feb 11 2005, 05:18 PM

But in this situation he didnt have a gun.. fortunately enough for that family the man didnt have the money to buy a pistol, as he spent the money he stole and robbed for to support his habit. This family is truly scarred for life by the choice of one punk who was strong enough to pick up a brick off the ground. If this family did have a pistol, this would have never happened. This grade school teacher would be able to stand infront of his class, teaching his students of this situation.. let them understand responsibility in their actions and choices, to ensure they grow up for the better, not to be a crack monster hurting & tearing apart families
Before you fight for anti-gun laws, do remember the lovely phrase "guns dont kill people, people kill people.". I do perosnally believe we could use more strict gun laws... I dont believe we should arm any typical ignorant person, but those that are mature enough that i understand the responsibility of owning a handgun, I am all for them being armed to protect themself and their family.
As previously stated
"Rather be judged by 12 of my peers as opposed to being victimized by 1"

Originally Posted by God' date='Feb 11 2005, 05:19 PM

Well?

A giant man can kill me and/or my family with a brick. I have no desire to get into a brick fight so I'd shoot the guy. Does this not sound reasonable?