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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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[QUOTE=vader1,Jul 22 2009, 05:31 PM] I know lots of police officers and some are the most mild mannered nice people you could ever meet.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrFvpMgL9EE [/media]&feature=related


Shes smuggling contraband under her shirt, and its in plain view, so im gonna have to search and confiscate her puppys!
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Jul 22 2009, 03:58 PM
Sucidial or not, if some crazy ***** points a gun at me, she's going down hard. I'll side the cop on this one...


As for the mother, no idea how that happened -- we need more facts
Just because someone's suicidal does not make them "crazy." Obviously I'm with others who say we need more information before we judge, but if that cop wasn't trained to deal with suicidal people, perhaps he should have called the local crisis line to get someone who COULD help. My guess is this could have been prevented.

No matter what the details are, it's tragic that someone called for help to prevent a death and in the end TWO people died.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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I'd say that relationship is now shot all to hell.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ikeyballz,Jul 22 2009, 04:33 PM
I have to say, although cops and I arent on the best terms...I love em. seriously, what are you gonna do if you see someone waving a gun around?! obviously call the cops - I respect them for that. I have run into both good and bad cops - the good ones make you understand that youre wrong - the bad ones just make you hate them cuz they're asshats.
Leave or, if I have no other choice, shoot them myself.

The police are only minutes away when you only have seconds to make a decision. Like you, I have met good cops and bad cops but regardless, I completely disagree with the main focus of their time and efforts (revenue generation). I respect them as people but I don't respect them as officers. They're just government-approved secondary tax collectors.
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kyushin,Jul 22 2009, 06:16 PM
I hear ya bro, but cops are little puss wads if you know alittle about the law. First and largest mistake people will always make when encountering a pig is speaking. My view point is that cops are trash and not even human enough for me to speak to, so I will never say a word to them. This mentality has saved my ass many times when random pigs attempeted gotcha games with me.

Also, a cop my NEVER search your car without probably cause, and even if you ran the stop sign, thats not probably cause enough.

Cops almost always abuse people who do not know their rights during a traffic stop. Cops are not here to help you, contrary to what many soap box preachers will say, they exist for one reason and that is to make arrests and help make convictions. Cops are not your friend and are not there to help you, anythin you say can AND WILL be used against you.

I cant stress enough how important it is to exercise your rights, heres a tip
First off if you run a stop sign you have committed a crime... a ticket is a courtesy, you can be arrested for anything even running a stop sign. If they want to search your car they can just arrest you and search it. I agree its better to know rights and laws, but it certainly sounds to me like you have not a freaking clue about either. Secondly your generalization of a certain group of people is retarded.... Are all doctors good people because they save lives? No.. People like you honestly make me sad that I live in the world we live in full of hate and negative stereotypes. Are alot of cops jerkoffs yes... But not all. Think before you speak.
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by quiksilverS2K,Jul 23 2009, 08:35 AM
First off if you run a stop sign you have committed a crime... a ticket is a courtesy, you can be arrested for anything even running a stop sign. If they want to search your car they can just arrest you and search it. I agree its better to know rights and laws, but it certainly sounds to me like you have not a freaking clue about either.
Arresting you for running a stop sign is not grounds to search the vehicle any more than it is grounds to search your home (they are treated exactly the same way). They still need a warrant or probable cause.
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by quiksilverS2K,Jul 23 2009, 08:35 AM
a ticket is a courtesy, you can be arrested for anything even running a stop sign.
Where did you get this idea?

You may not be arrested for minor traffic offenses. The fourth ammendment right against unreasonable search and seizure also applies to siezure of one's person. You may not be detained for any longer than the course of giving you the ticket. Why would you be arrested for an infraction that does not include jail time? What would be the point?

Traffic offenses and civil offenses like having a loud party or something that is not a criminal offesnse have a whole different court system and procedure. You don't have an arraignment and the ability to post bail on a traffic offense, you just show up for a trail date a couple months later. So if you got arrested for running a stop sign and you have no arraignment you would just sit in jail for a couple months?

An officer hauling someone in for something like running a stop sign is bucking for a malicious prosecution lawsuit.
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by vader1,Jul 23 2009, 08:48 AM
Where did you get this idea?

You may not be arrested for minor traffic offenses. The fourth ammendment right against unreasonable search and seizure also applies to siezure of one's person. You may not be detained for any longer than the course of giving you the ticket. Why would you be arrested for an infraction that does not include jail time? What would be the point?

Traffic offenses and civil offenses like having a loud party or something that is not a criminal offesnse have a whole different court system and procedure. You don't have an arraignment and the ability to post bail on a traffic offense, you just show up for a trail date a couple months later. So if you got arrested for running a stop sign and you have no arraignment you would just sit in jail for a couple months?

An officer hauling someone in for something like running a stop sign is bucking for a malicious prosecution lawsuit.
Maybe in your state... but in most you can. In MO you can. As I stated before both of my parents were police officers.. so I have a very firm understanding of my laws and rights
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