does everything have to be wheelchair accessible?
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Yeah i know what you mean about it being an MTV production.
Either way it should bea good watch because they're actually embracing their disability and doing something with their lives instead of sueing and crying about being disabled.
Either way it should bea good watch because they're actually embracing their disability and doing something with their lives instead of sueing and crying about being disabled.
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Originally Posted by AP1_rock,Jun 24 2005, 09:57 AM
Everyone should watch this movie.
OMG there guys are crazy..
http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/murderball/
OMG there guys are crazy..
http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/murderball/
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Originally Posted by THEOLDMAN,Jun 23 2005, 03:22 PM
It's not a favor, it's the law.
Accessability isn't at the expense of others. It just means it's accessable to all. I worked in the hospitality industry and I had make sure that the properties all complied with ADA, we had a bar that the only way anyone in a wheelchair could come in was to either lift them wheelchair and all or use some 2X6's as ramps, they couldn't use the restrooms, they were too small and the doors too narrow. They could not negotiate through the bar either as the floor had several levels and no ramps. The owners tried to grandfather it but they had no other facilities that the wheelchair bound could use. We hired a consultant, ex police officer that had been shot in the back and was wheelchair bound, to check all of the properties. He gave us a report that was an eyeopener, you would be surprised at how many places in a building are inaccessable. That particular bar has since been totally remodeled and turned into a fine restaurant, that has access for all.
Any place that has undergone renovations in the last 20 years should be in compliance. For that matter they've all had more than 20 years to comply, if they couldn't have done anything in that time frame they should be sued. Early on the ADA laws stated that it had to be something that could be readily fixed that needed attention right away. That's why the physically disabled are still routed to back doors. (residential ramp 1:12 business ramp 1:20) How would you like only being able to use the back door to every place you go to.
If you are wheelchair bound you have limited reach, you can't just stand up to get something that is too high, therefore displays of products that allow you to test the product should be at a level accessable from a wheelchair. It's not that hard to fix.
Accessability isn't at the expense of others. It just means it's accessable to all. I worked in the hospitality industry and I had make sure that the properties all complied with ADA, we had a bar that the only way anyone in a wheelchair could come in was to either lift them wheelchair and all or use some 2X6's as ramps, they couldn't use the restrooms, they were too small and the doors too narrow. They could not negotiate through the bar either as the floor had several levels and no ramps. The owners tried to grandfather it but they had no other facilities that the wheelchair bound could use. We hired a consultant, ex police officer that had been shot in the back and was wheelchair bound, to check all of the properties. He gave us a report that was an eyeopener, you would be surprised at how many places in a building are inaccessable. That particular bar has since been totally remodeled and turned into a fine restaurant, that has access for all.
Any place that has undergone renovations in the last 20 years should be in compliance. For that matter they've all had more than 20 years to comply, if they couldn't have done anything in that time frame they should be sued. Early on the ADA laws stated that it had to be something that could be readily fixed that needed attention right away. That's why the physically disabled are still routed to back doors. (residential ramp 1:12 business ramp 1:20) How would you like only being able to use the back door to every place you go to.
If you are wheelchair bound you have limited reach, you can't just stand up to get something that is too high, therefore displays of products that allow you to test the product should be at a level accessable from a wheelchair. It's not that hard to fix.
But it can get out of hand. So they can't see the electronics display.. big friggin deal. I don't think everything in the world has to be wheelchair accessible.
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Originally Posted by S2000bobster,Jun 25 2005, 12:24 PM
My uncle owns an Italian restaurant and theres a bar so one day this guy in wheelchair comes in and complained that the bar is too high for him and he can not sit on the bar stools like other people can. There were tables available for people with wheelchair but this gentleman wanted to drink his beer on the bar tables! The next day he went to sue my uncle, I couldn't believe that he sued my uncle because the bar table was too high for him to seat, I mean there were all this table available why sit in the bar. I don't think I ever seen a bar with wheelchair accessible! My uncle wanted to avoid the lawsuit so he settled with that person in wheelchair, I think it was around $8,000.
If he was just doing it for peopl in wheelchairs then he wouldn't take the money he would've made your uncle put int a lower bar.
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[QUOTE=S2000bobster,Jun 25 2005, 08:24 AM] My uncle owns an Italian restaurant and theres a bar so one day this guy in wheelchair comes in and complained that the bar is too high for him and he can not sit on the bar stools like other people can.
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