getting a friend off heroin
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Flojo... There are no free rehabilitation clinics and your area? there are some programs that get money from local, state or federal government and even from congregations and grants through foundations. Have you searched extensively for something like this? Even if you have to go a state over it is worth it. As foxy said and I'm sure you already know...
This is where clinics tend to help alot, just seeing other people in their same position who may have already overcome addiction and been clean for years, or even people in the same boat just fighting to stay clean can help keep someone headstrong. Best of luck to you, quite good of you to try and help your friend.
Even if he can cut it with your help and escape the immediate physical addiction, the psychological addiction will remain strong for possibly years, he will need close monitoring, and just ONE dose, will put him right back to square one.
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Originally Posted by foxy_s2k,Sep 18 2009, 02:30 AM
He said money.
I don't envy your position. Your friend is about to face one of the hardest challenges life can throw at you.
What do you think of the person? Are they generally psychologically strong?
The reason I ask is because psychologically weak people, more often than not, cannot shake it and end up dying of an overdose eventually. That may sound harsh, but what I mean is, be prepared for it not to work the first time. If you really care about this person, you may have to go through this with them multiple times in your lives.
Even if he can cut it with your help and escape the immediate physical addiction, the psychological addiction will remain strong for possibly years, he will need close monitoring, and just ONE dose, will put him right back to square one.
I wish you the best of luck.
I don't envy your position. Your friend is about to face one of the hardest challenges life can throw at you.
What do you think of the person? Are they generally psychologically strong?
The reason I ask is because psychologically weak people, more often than not, cannot shake it and end up dying of an overdose eventually. That may sound harsh, but what I mean is, be prepared for it not to work the first time. If you really care about this person, you may have to go through this with them multiple times in your lives.
Even if he can cut it with your help and escape the immediate physical addiction, the psychological addiction will remain strong for possibly years, he will need close monitoring, and just ONE dose, will put him right back to square one.
I wish you the best of luck.
It is also going to take pateince in everything you do including how you talk to them. Even to the point where you have to be frank which is something you are already good at.
At the same it is going to take empathy as well, a tentive ear to listen. There has to be a balance because these people go through an emotional roller coaster and you have to be prepaired to deal with it with the right approach.
I applaud your efforts and never would have expected this from you due in part to our last interaction on these forums but be that as it may good luck to you and stay the course because it can be done!
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Good luck with the project, and I mean that sincerely.
I also am serious when I say this, if nothing works and things go out of control, call Dr Phil or the show "Intervention". Yeah it exploits the person's misery but they pay for the treatment. Free top notch treatment is probably more successful than just friends helping out. And that is not to knock people helping out. There is only so much you know how to do.
I also am serious when I say this, if nothing works and things go out of control, call Dr Phil or the show "Intervention". Yeah it exploits the person's misery but they pay for the treatment. Free top notch treatment is probably more successful than just friends helping out. And that is not to knock people helping out. There is only so much you know how to do.
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ok so i have been there and know what your about to try, but my friend wasn't that hooked to heroin, more so coke... but still you need to know how often they do it as said b4 it's a phyiscal thing. if they are doing it multiply times a day, just coming off cold turkey will prob kill them. they need something of a lower dose for there body to get used to the change. and they will need support for many months even years. na might help. but devoted friends are best imo. I wish you good luck... for you and him/her.
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Originally Posted by drhess06259,Sep 18 2009, 08:56 AM
ok so i have been there and know what your about to try, but my friend wasn't that hooked to heroin, more so coke... but still you need to know how often they do it as said b4 it's a phyiscal thing. if they are doing it multiply times a day, just coming off cold turkey will prob kill them. they need something of a lower dose for there body to get used to the change. and they will need support for many months even years. na might help. but devoted friends are best imo. I wish you good luck... for you and him/her.
that's not a real addiction, that's like saying you are addicted to heinekens and jager bombs
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Originally Posted by DFWs2k,Sep 18 2009, 10:11 AM
that's not a real addiction, that's like saying you are addicted to heinekens and jager bombs
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Originally Posted by duboseq,Sep 18 2009, 09:18 AM
People are addicted to heinikens and Jager bombs. They are call alcoholics and people die that from that addiction just like cocaine and heroin.
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1. Your friend is going to want to kick or it's not going to happen.
2. Is there anyone that can be on shift with you to be with him while he kicks?
3. The first 48 hours will be the worst so if he starts on the weekend it will be easier to be with him.
4. Be sure where he kicks there isn't a hidden stash.
5. Good luck, be careful, it can be dangerous to him.
2. Is there anyone that can be on shift with you to be with him while he kicks?
3. The first 48 hours will be the worst so if he starts on the weekend it will be easier to be with him.
4. Be sure where he kicks there isn't a hidden stash.
5. Good luck, be careful, it can be dangerous to him.
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Originally Posted by DFWs2k,Sep 18 2009, 10:11 AM
that's not a real addiction, that's like saying you are addicted to heinekens and jager bombs