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horrible dolphin video from Japan....

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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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when making the decision to respect the way other cultures do some things, it is worth keeping in mind that not everything is relative. Some cultures may have no respect for human life. It is not acceptable to say "that is just their way, we should respect it." We are under no obligation to give a free pass to any kind of behavior simply because "it's another culture."

A person is not automatically calling everyone of other cultures "savages" just because they think a particular practice is heinous or shameful. It is entirely possible to have a negative opinion and still be rational.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildncrazy,Sep 22 2006, 06:07 AM
It is obvious that VTEC Junkie has never had the experience of interacting with a Dolphin.

Yes you can and you'd better use intelligence as a criteria for food sources. If not you'll be eating the neighbors kids soon. Dolphins are so much smarter and more loveable than the neighbors kids!
you're right. i've never personally interacted with a dolphin and i don't see how that is relevant. sure you may feel that dolphins are more worthy animals because of their "intelligence" and because you've had personal experience with them, but other people may feel other animals are more worthy because of so and so characteristics and because THEY'VE had personal experience with them. since everyone has their own personal perspectives towards different animals, how does society determine what animal is a viable source of food and what is not?? personally, i've had rabbits as pets while growing up as a child and i've grown fond of that animal for whatever reasons and can never be able to force myself to eat rabbits regardless of how delicious others claim their meat to be, just like many people in western society cannot force themselves to eat cats and dogs due to a similar fondness, but that doesn't mean that other people of other cultures and society do no eat cats and dogs, just like many folks enjoy an occassional nice roasted rabbit at dinner time. of course, you're gonna try to argue that you cannot compare a rabbit with a dolphin cuz dolphins are vastly more "intelligent", but who are you to determine what characteristics of an animal are more worthy and valuable than others?? besides, a dolphin may be more "intelligent" compared with other animals, but do they have the intelligence capabilities, for instance, to understand the laws of science and use that knowledge to manipulate nature in a highly sophisticated manner such as designing and manufacturing a laptop computer or devising methods of wireless communications?? if not, then why are you comparing them to human children?? sure, not all children will grow up to be electrical engineers, but i firmly believe that most have the capabiliities to do so if they apply themselves into studying that field, and if not then most will utilize their intelligence for other roles and puposes that dolphins also will not be able to do. the bottom line is that dolphins, from my limited understanding of their intelligence, cannot attain that level of intelligence sophistication, so please stop comparing dolphins to humans. as for the subject of cannibalism, most species, regardless of how relatively unintelligent, protect their youngs and refrain from eating other members of their own species (and of course there are exceptions). so even if our social values will allow us to eat children and perform cannibalism, there will still be an inherent natural behavioral trait inside us that will refrain us from doing so. but even still, human cannibalism exist in certain cultures and society in today's age. all in all, i believe that your prejucdice for dolphins stems from the fact that you've had personal experience with them, which is fine. i'm guessing if you haven't had personal experience with them, you're perspective of that animal would be different. maybe it wouldn't be different to the point where you'd be willing to eat dolphins, but i'm sure your personal fondness for them would be different. nonetheless, one's personal perspective and fondness of certain animals should not determine and/or dictate what animals others can choose to eat. after all, many different animals have their own fascinating characteristics (even cows and pigs), and i'm sure if you've had enough personal knowledge and experience with them, you'd develope your own personal prejudice for them as well.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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And you wonder where sushi comes from?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cruisinhondas2k,Sep 23 2006, 01:10 AM
And you wonder where sushi comes from?
isn't it growing on bonzai trees?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by VTEC_Junkie,Sep 22 2006, 07:02 PM
you're right. i've never personally interacted with a dolphin and i don't see how that is relevant.
It is relevent because had you had contact you would realize they aren't mere animals.

The difference with Dolphins is that they are as intelligent as people not any personal fondness because I have interacted with them.

That's not just my opinion it is just about every scientist's in the world. Do a quick google on Dolphin intelligence and see what pops up.

Dolphins are not animals because of their brain power, they are animals in packaging only. They have complex societies and behavorial aspects that are only rival by humans. They are aliens in the truest sense of the word.

If you ever get the chance to do more than watch a dolphin show at Sea World the difference between them and other "animals" is striking. They are people in another form. And by people I mean self aware, thinking individuals.

They do not have hands so of course they can't manipulate things the same way we do, but it does nothing to lessen their cognitive powers.

Some tests rate them as intelligent and self aware as children, others rate them as geniuses and say the lesser tests are skewed because they are designed by people with hands.

I have interacted with a great number of animals all over the world and the difference between them and other "animals" is striking. If you get the chance to visit with one you will never mistake them for mere animals again.

I likened it to cannibalism due to the fact that since Dolphins are at least as intelligent as you or your child it means you are eating a sentinent being.

I have had a lot of experience with barn yard animals ( boy is that opening a door for someone) since I have raised pigs, cows, horses, chickens, geese, turkeys, pheasants, chukar, sheep, goats and probably a few more.

I have also raised and shown several breeds of dogs as well as having monkeys, parrots, ferrets, & rabbits.

I say that to be able to say that I know the difference.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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That's bull........t, Damn slanted eye puncks!
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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Screw that, so cows and pigs are less smart and not so cute then they deserve to be slaughtered and eaten? Dogs and cats are so cute and cuddly so people who eat them are evil. Fvck this double standard bullsh*t. Unless you are vegan just shut the fvck up. Bunch of hypocrites.

ps. i wonder what it would feel if they replace the background music in this video with some heavy metal song?
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rollo_tomase,Sep 23 2006, 12:22 AM
Screw that, so cows and pigs are less smart and not so cute then they deserve to be slaughtered and eaten? Dogs and cats are so cute and cuddly so people who eat them are evil. Fvck this double standard bullsh*t. Unless you are vegan just shut the fvck up. Bunch of hypocrites.

ps. i wonder what it would feel if they replace the background music in this video with some heavy metal song?
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by S2000380,Sep 22 2006, 09:03 PM
That's bull........t, Damn slanted eye puncks!
Some "damn slanted eye puncks" also build your precious S2000. You pay them $$$ for your precious S2000 so they can go eat more delicious dolphin. Take that sucker.
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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so where can i get my hands on a dolphin steak?? i'm seriously curious in trying one now... heck, i'm even willing to try dolphin sashimi...
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