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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 09:25 PM
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Well... I sense that it's starting. And I've had a horrible trepidation about the agenda behind my goverment's actions, oh no it's going to be another Vietnam, oh no our reputation is gonna get even worse making a move like this.

Until I actually came face to face with hundreds of anti-Iraq-war picketers on my way home from work... I hadn't really gone online to do any news research from unbiased sources, or even ask my mom for her opinion on this whole thing (she keeps up on this stuff quite well) Well I finally did all that tonight, and all I have to say is....

I think we SHOULD go to war with Iraq. I'm really really sorry that I honked my horn "in favor" of the protester's general sentiment earlier. I wish I could go back over there and grab all their heads and stick their noses into the facts of what's going on.

It's easy for anyone to give this whole situation a cursory view and feel as though it's pointless / just another Vietnam / a good time to disrespect Bush. Basically, this post is my apology as a U.S. citizen for not caring until now, and for forming strong opinions without even taking the time to find out what's going on out there.
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 09:39 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by SteveUCI
[B]Well...
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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This issue is pretty simple. Saddam agreed to certain things back in 89 or 90, when we blew his ass out of Kuwait. He hasn't lived up to the promises he made and inspectors haven't been in Iraq since 1998. Why would he not live up to his promises if, as his people say, they aren't making weapons of mass destruction? The people who oppose our taking an active role in forcing Saddam to live up to obligations he agreed to over a decade ago are people who would choose not to fight no matter what the circumstance. They are the people who give their lunch money to bullies instead of standing up to them. Two last notes comments. First, be aware that the world had the chance to stop Hitler before he killed millions of people but chose not to. The US did not get involved until Pearl Harbor was attacked. Secondly, there's an old saying about WWII that is interesting - "In Germany they came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up. "

We need to be proactive and deal with this terrorist leader we should have dealt with a decade ago. Thanks for having the nads to speak up about this.
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 12:37 AM
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Make love not war...

In the interests of sticking on-topic, edited by Tedow
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 01:37 AM
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right click...save...

Goddamn you Wantone for your pictures.
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 02:04 AM
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I'm sure if bush and saddam could sit down and share those women over a few cones all our problems would be solved.
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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Thanks Steve for having the maturity and desire to gain an informed opinion on this extemely important issue. Lets hope that peace will prevail without war!
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 10:11 AM
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While I agree that Saddam is hiding weapons and a boat load of secrets, I have this GREAT concern that terrorism in this country will escalate if we attack. And we really don't know what the other Arab countries will do (even though a lot of them don't particularly like Saddam). And what will happen with the oil we so desperately require.
The end of the world may be near. God help us all!!!
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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most definitely something should be done about Iraq, but i ask do we really want to involve ourselves in an anticipatory self-defense strike? Man that's an oxymoron. I do not trust Saddam one bit, but the possibility exists that if we strike out against him the repercussions of our actions may be irrevocable. more explicitly, how can you defend yourself against terrorism? unless you catch it's transformation, it's too late.
i believe this is the ideology our government has adopted, but materializing its conception is another matter.

a preemptive strike could very well be a pandora's box. the hatred and indifference that those ppl(terrorist) have against America is immeasurable, and surely once a strike commences we will be under the red alert for homeland securityt indefinitely.

last i checked, we didn't have any demonstrative proof that Saddem was in possession of weapons of mass destruction; shouldn't this be the catalyst of our actions? i mean, not only do we want to go to war, we want to remove their president. please don't misinterpret my words, im jus cautious of the precedent that this may start in global affairs.

i would hate for a coalition of nations to unify and try to dismantle another country because they have ulterior motives(natural resources for example), but use that country's governmental tyranny/democracy as their facade.

if we do attack Iraq, it needs to be done in a manner where ten, fifteen years down the line we don't find ourselves in the same predicament.
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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Everyone should always be concerned when talking about going to war. The problem lies in what our true motives are in going into Iraq and trying to take out a tyrannical leader. A leader who would sure use his weapons when fully developed. Saddam DEFINITELY is building weapons of mass destruction and mass terror. He will NEVER stop until he can get the weapon that can strike great fear into Isreal. If you are not sure about what Saddam is like, go to Amazon (or your local library) and look for books about Saddam. He is a nasty man. A good eBook is
Saddam's Bombmaker: The Terrifying Inside Story of the Iraqi Nuclear and Biological Weapons Agenda. This book is written by the man that used to be in charge in developing Saddam's first nuclear bomb. There are other books out there if you want to learn about this man.

Now the argument that you don't want to attack Iraq because of the higher likelihood of terrorist attacks in our nation. I think our risk might rise, but if we sit and do nothing, attacks will still be planned and attempts will be carried out. With or without war, we are at risk. And Iraq definitely provides financial support to the major terrorist groups throughout the world. That's another reason to remove Saddam from power is because any state back terrorism is a lot more dangerous then a man (Osama) without a land to build his own armies and weapons.

This is obviously something not to take lightly and has to be well planned, well gunned, and has to have the endurance to do the proper job. And it will take the American citizens to put in the time to understand what MAY have to be done and what are reasons WHY we might have to attack Iraq. Good job, Steve.

ERIK
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