the mapquest of real estate
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Actually I do have a site(s) and I care about every dime I can get. I don't care what machine they use, what color they are, what sexual persuasions they have. I don't care if I like them even all I care about is finding a way in front of them so that I can make a living.
If you are in business you simply don't lock the door to some people. It is easy to write a site that works with all browsers. I don't have any need to prove that I can use the most current neat new programming trick or tool, all that matters is that I write or use something that is friendly to the public and doesn't require ANY ADAPTATION of any kind to use my site.
If you are in business and you are using code that doesn't work on EVERY mainstream browser you need to have your head examined or get out of business. You have just told your potential customers that you don't care about them.
As far as browser shares, it is easy to spot where your people come from and what browsers they use. I know from my hosting stats that only 41-42% of my hits come from IE. I know that almost 60% of my hits come from other browsers so the people that write mostly for IE are losing about 60% of the business, that is if they are in the Real Estate business like I am.
I know that it is tough to spot the Safari browser because it uses the Mozilla engine and so it is mixed with other stats but I know that the Mozilla browser family account for most of my hits.
I can also tell that most of my hits and, according to GoDaddy, most of everyone elses hits aren't above a certain speed connections which tells me that most of the people out there are still on dial up or slow DSL so my site and yours better load very quickly or they'll get bored and click off.
I am presuming from posts that your site has some real estate connection so I'd say the best advice you can get about your site is that you need to do a little more research cause you're gonna get blown out of the water if you aren't readily accessible and, based upon other posts, more accurate with your property values.
If you are in business you simply don't lock the door to some people. It is easy to write a site that works with all browsers. I don't have any need to prove that I can use the most current neat new programming trick or tool, all that matters is that I write or use something that is friendly to the public and doesn't require ANY ADAPTATION of any kind to use my site.
If you are in business and you are using code that doesn't work on EVERY mainstream browser you need to have your head examined or get out of business. You have just told your potential customers that you don't care about them.
As far as browser shares, it is easy to spot where your people come from and what browsers they use. I know from my hosting stats that only 41-42% of my hits come from IE. I know that almost 60% of my hits come from other browsers so the people that write mostly for IE are losing about 60% of the business, that is if they are in the Real Estate business like I am.
I know that it is tough to spot the Safari browser because it uses the Mozilla engine and so it is mixed with other stats but I know that the Mozilla browser family account for most of my hits.
I can also tell that most of my hits and, according to GoDaddy, most of everyone elses hits aren't above a certain speed connections which tells me that most of the people out there are still on dial up or slow DSL so my site and yours better load very quickly or they'll get bored and click off.
I am presuming from posts that your site has some real estate connection so I'd say the best advice you can get about your site is that you need to do a little more research cause you're gonna get blown out of the water if you aren't readily accessible and, based upon other posts, more accurate with your property values.
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They have a long way to go, but it's a start. The values are hit or miss, about 50% of ones I looked up are on and misses were high and low. A couple I looked at that were close if I look in that same neighborhood at the exact same spec house there could be a 10%+ difference adding more errors.
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Originally Posted by Wildncrazy,Feb 8 2006, 11:05 PM
Actually I.... values.
Great business sense! it's easy to write a site that works with all browswers if it all text! if you need an active X control or the like sometimes you can't period. Get a clue. 
I don't know where your getting your numbers from but IE has a huge freaking share 80.9%. and GROWING! Why because the other browsers suck balls.http://www.informationweek.com/news/showAr...cleID=177105800
Firefox Slides In U.S., IE Gains Ground
Bucking other reports that Internet Explorer is continuing its downward trend, a Dutch metric company says IE gained market share in the last two months, while Firefox slid.
Microsoft Corp.'s Internet Explorer browser gained market share in the last two months, a Dutch Web metrics company announced Tuesday.
While other measurement vendors said earlier this month that Internet Explorer (IE) continued its downward trend, Amsterdam-based OneStat's data had IE climbing by .37 percent since November 2005. According to OneStat, Microsoft's browser now accounts for 85.8 percent of all browsers used worldwide.
In the U.S., IE's rise was half as much -- .18 percent -- with 80.9 percent of Americans using the browser.
Mozilla Corp.'s Firefox, meanwhile, slipped .28 percent during the same period, ending up with 11.2 percent of the global market.
"The global usage shares of Mozilla and Microsoft's Internet Explorer browsers remain stable, and it seems that people are not switching so often to Firefox as before," said Niels Brinkman, co-founder of OneStat, in a statement.
But in the U.S., Firefox dropped dramatically; its share fell 1.52 percent, from 14.1 percent in November to 12.6 percent in January 2006.
In other browser news, Microsoft released its newest IE, Internet Explorer 7, in a beta preview which can be downloaded free of charge from the company's Web site.
Since Mozilla unveiled Firefox 1.0 nearly 15 months ago, analysts have predicted that Microsoft would regain some of its lost share when IE 7 appeared.
Internet Explorer 7 is scheduled to finalize in the second half of 2006
Bucking other reports that Internet Explorer is continuing its downward trend, a Dutch metric company says IE gained market share in the last two months, while Firefox slid.
Microsoft Corp.'s Internet Explorer browser gained market share in the last two months, a Dutch Web metrics company announced Tuesday.
While other measurement vendors said earlier this month that Internet Explorer (IE) continued its downward trend, Amsterdam-based OneStat's data had IE climbing by .37 percent since November 2005. According to OneStat, Microsoft's browser now accounts for 85.8 percent of all browsers used worldwide.
In the U.S., IE's rise was half as much -- .18 percent -- with 80.9 percent of Americans using the browser.
Mozilla Corp.'s Firefox, meanwhile, slipped .28 percent during the same period, ending up with 11.2 percent of the global market.
"The global usage shares of Mozilla and Microsoft's Internet Explorer browsers remain stable, and it seems that people are not switching so often to Firefox as before," said Niels Brinkman, co-founder of OneStat, in a statement.
But in the U.S., Firefox dropped dramatically; its share fell 1.52 percent, from 14.1 percent in November to 12.6 percent in January 2006.
In other browser news, Microsoft released its newest IE, Internet Explorer 7, in a beta preview which can be downloaded free of charge from the company's Web site.
Since Mozilla unveiled Firefox 1.0 nearly 15 months ago, analysts have predicted that Microsoft would regain some of its lost share when IE 7 appeared.
Internet Explorer 7 is scheduled to finalize in the second half of 2006
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From: Jersey City
Walter Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal wrote an article about zillow.com yesterday. This is still a beta website so it maybe on or off depending on traffic. Some regions data are still been compiled so certain areas are more spotty than others. I recall he mentioned the metro NYC and the DC areas as not particularly good but some of western metro cities are quite accurate, according to his article. I just plugged in my NJ address .... well, if it's accurate 
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The assessed value for my home is actually the assessed value for tax purposes. The house is worth about 2.5 times that value, but they wouldn't know that.
The site didn't work with my Opera browser either.
The site didn't work with my Opera browser either.
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exceltoexcel my browser figures come from the real world, not an article in a paper somewhere. They are actual figures from the people that view my sites which is all that matters. In another industry the figures might vary because they might have a different audience.
I (have to) use IE on some sites, most notably some industry specific sites but my browser of choice is Safari. It is leaner and faster than any IE ever made and more features than Firefox.
But that isn't the point. The point is that a business site can't afford to artificially limit their customer base in any fashion. It doesn't matter if there is some new and great function out there if most of the people don't have it then you don't need to use it. The primary function of a website or business is to serve the customer so you must use technology that they presently have on their computers. Not many people have their computers loaded at the cutting edge.
If your site was for &/or frequented by techno geeks then you'd better have the latest and greatest because that is your target market, but a real estate site can't afford that because they are catering to the masses that have old computers and slow connections.
And bkw YES if that is assessed value (which has nothing to do with appraised value) then yes you are being taxed way too much!!!!
Assessed values are part of a formula used to derive how much money the gov can get from you and have no real world bearing on actual values in most parts of the country. If they need more money they either have to juggle tax rates or juggle your values. Juggling values is more politically safe. Some areas do take the most recent sales and post them as the tax value but most don't.
I (have to) use IE on some sites, most notably some industry specific sites but my browser of choice is Safari. It is leaner and faster than any IE ever made and more features than Firefox.
But that isn't the point. The point is that a business site can't afford to artificially limit their customer base in any fashion. It doesn't matter if there is some new and great function out there if most of the people don't have it then you don't need to use it. The primary function of a website or business is to serve the customer so you must use technology that they presently have on their computers. Not many people have their computers loaded at the cutting edge.
If your site was for &/or frequented by techno geeks then you'd better have the latest and greatest because that is your target market, but a real estate site can't afford that because they are catering to the masses that have old computers and slow connections.
And bkw YES if that is assessed value (which has nothing to do with appraised value) then yes you are being taxed way too much!!!!
Assessed values are part of a formula used to derive how much money the gov can get from you and have no real world bearing on actual values in most parts of the country. If they need more money they either have to juggle tax rates or juggle your values. Juggling values is more politically safe. Some areas do take the most recent sales and post them as the tax value but most don't.